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Old 05-18-2011, 09:13 PM   #31
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His best play came in 2008. Since then, he has not been as good. Good riddance, I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the fellas Willie Parker was talking about.

If we give him a fat contract, I predict the results would be like the many Snyder contracts doled out. Let him go to Philly so they can boo him for dropping too many passes. That would be hilarious.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:36 PM   #32
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I get his frustration that he feels like with Springs and Hall he never got treated like the #1 guy. And was even benched a couple of times

But what was the last big play he made for us?
If he really wants to....KNOW frustration...be a fan and watch him continually drop potential int's the ESPN clerical pool wouldn't.
I guess he wouldn't drop his paycheck, right? Oh wait, he apparently cannot hold on to his money either?
He can be pissed when he has earned it and not been awarded some...imagined respect.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:12 PM   #33
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I mean, I think his play as a whole was kind of under appreciated. I don't TOTALLY disagree with him, I think overall he was a pretty good corner during his time here...top ten pick? Maybe not, but in terms of shutting down his guy, I think he was pretty good.

Dude could NOT make a play though. For all the times D. Hall got beat deep last year, he was a playmaker and game changer. He pretty much won us two games last season (Dallas & Chicago)... I honestly think if Carlos didnt drop that pick 6 in 2005 we would have gone to the Super Bowl.

But seriously man, shut the hell up. This guy whined the whole time he was here, always complaining about something, get the hell out of here then. I couldnt be happier about the roster turnover we've had since Shannahan got here. I am a little skeptical about the QB position still, but finally time to get some fresh faces around here.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:16 PM   #34
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Not sure if serious?

That was the second to last week of the season and we were 5-9 at the time.

Way to step up with a big 1/2 game of work in a meaningless game Carlos.

Doesn't really fall into the big play category if you ask me.
He had a nice pick against Houston week 2, but the last big time game changing/winning play was probaboly 2008 against Arizona. His pick pretty much won us the game.

I agree with Saden overall though, I mean he couldn't catch a cold, but he did a good enough job for me while he was here. In terms of being a cover corner, I think Springs was better than Rogers, but I think Rogers was better than D. Hall. The only difference is D. Hall makes big plays and Rogers does not.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:25 PM   #35
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Kick rocks ya bum.. Another wasted draft pick by Vinny with DeMarcus Ware and Aaron Rodgers on the board. Rogers is a scrub, if he was wearing any other jersey than ours the past few seasons nobody around here would be craving him as a FA corner if we had a need. There are VERY few Redskins players I've disliked in my fandom years but this clown definitely qualifies.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:33 PM   #36
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Re: Rogers Ready to Move On

3 pages for a CORNER! I hate you all. I'd be happier with a 5 page thread for a long snapper.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:44 PM   #37
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Yes, but it's not like anyone, Vinny or not, saw those two players being potential all pro's. It's not like in the 2000 draft we should have drafted Tom Brady at 198 instead of Matt Bowen..you see what I'm getting at here.

Also I wish we had drafted Rogers instead of Campbell, but Oh well.
Are you kidding? Rodgers was in contention to be a top 10 pick. Ware and Merriman were both highly rated pass rushers at the time. Go back and review history of that draft my man.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:45 PM   #38
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Agree that he's not a bust, but I'm not sure scouts knew he had trouble with interceptions back in college

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Old 05-19-2011, 01:38 AM   #39
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I've brought it up several times here, and it's mentioned in this article as well. What is driving this as much as anything else is the fact that Rogers is beyond broke. Well, he was at least. I think he's in a bit of better shape now, but he is really looking for the money above all else.
Yep. This is all about money.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:43 AM   #40
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I think that if Carlos leaves this board will be begging for his return before the first half of the season is over. There are some important issues to look at before shipping him away and calling him a bust.

1. Who will replace him? Kevin Barnes? No thanks. If we're able to get a top flight CB such as Asoughmaughausdhf then fine. Truth be told, I'd rather ship out D Hall for Asoughmaughausdhf than Rogers.

2. People act as if CBs are supposed to win games. CBs rarely win games for you, however a CB can often lose a game for you giving up a big pass late. Go ahead and look back at who gave up more big plays for wins. Carlos or Hall. There's a reason Hall gets thrown on all day, because he constantly makes big mistakes. Minus the one game with 3 picks where I think Hall must have had the wrong color jersey on, he was mediocre at best. Fans are fickle, just because he catches the ball means he's an amazing player. I want my outside guys to first and foremost lock down receivers, and PICKS are nice. Let the FS be the ballhawk.

3. Carlos should certainly catch some of the balls. I'm not saying that isn't his biggest weakness. However, I refuse to accept him being a bad or sub-par player because of that one issue. If he had better hands he'd be a top 10 CB in the NFL easy. As is, I think he's in the top 30 without question.

4. Since day one people have been pretty critical of Carlos and don't realize his value. If I were treated like that, I'd probably want out too. I also don't understand why people are angry he wants to get paid. We all do it in our professional careers, why is it so wrong for players to do that. Your market price is what someone will pay. If another company offered me a decent raise and the other intangibles were there -- goodbye current company. I have to look out for my own best interests, my company isn't going to do that for me.
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I think that if Carlos leaves this board will be begging for his return before the first half of the season is over. There are some important issues to look at before shipping him away and calling him a bust.

1. Who will replace him? Kevin Barnes? No thanks. If we're able to get a top flight CB such as Asoughmaughausdhf then fine. Truth be told, I'd rather ship out D Hall for Asoughmaughausdhf than Rogers.

2. People act as if CBs are supposed to win games. CBs rarely win games for you, however a CB can often lose a game for you giving up a big pass late. Go ahead and look back at who gave up more big plays for wins. Carlos or Hall. There's a reason Hall gets thrown on all day, because he constantly makes big mistakes. Minus the one game with 3 picks where I think Hall must have had the wrong color jersey on, he was mediocre at best. Fans are fickle, just because he catches the ball means he's an amazing player. I want my outside guys to first and foremost lock down receivers, and PICKS are nice. Let the FS be the ballhawk.

3. Carlos should certainly catch some of the balls. I'm not saying that isn't his biggest weakness. However, I refuse to accept him being a bad or sub-par player because of that one issue. If he had better hands he'd be a top 10 CB in the NFL easy. As is, I think he's in the top 30 without question.

4. Since day one people have been pretty critical of Carlos and don't realize his value. If I were treated like that, I'd probably want out too. I also don't understand why people are angry he wants to get paid. We all do it in our professional careers, why is it so wrong for players to do that. Your market price is what someone will pay. If another company offered me a decent raise and the other intangibles were there -- goodbye current company. I have to look out for my own best interests, my company isn't going to do that for me.
couldn't agree more. i like to get on los for missing some int's, but he is a damn good cover corner. it's a shame when never took care of him before, this wouldn't even be an issue.

it's funny how people on this board rant and rave about building from the ground up just to say ah screw carlos we can find someone better, really? what is happening with los will hopefully cease to happen anymore, we never pay the good young talent we draft, we just pay up once and ship em out for the next guy. it's a shame los feels the way he does, i would love nothing more than for him to be a redskins lifer.
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Old 05-19-2011, 08:50 AM   #42
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I don't think the fact that he simply couldn't catch interceptions should just be dismissed. He is a very good corner, but he wants to be paid like a great one. Great ones are game changers, never felt Los was one
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Old 05-19-2011, 08:51 AM   #43
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I agree with Ruhskins and Skinfan69, Carlos Rogers has been mistreated by the less knowledgeable fans and media. To say he is abysmal is wrong.
Carlos has played on some really terrible Redskins teams that had a terrible offense and no defensive line. Our run stopping last year was a joke. But Carlos drops a couple of INT's and he is the bad guy.
Carlos is an athletic NFL cover corner. They do not grow on trees and there aren't that many CB's out there as good as him at covering a top NFL WR. The dropeed int's is over blown considering how good the rest of his game is.
That would be like rating DE's and LB's solely on sacks. Oh wait they already do that. That is a mistake.
Great post. Sometimes I wonder if people around realize that it's the corners job to COVER first.
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:01 AM   #44
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I've brought it up several times here, and it's mentioned in this article as well. What is driving this as much as anything else is the fact that Rogers is beyond broke. Well, he was at least. I think he's in a bit of better shape now, but he is really looking for the money above all else.


Sometimes I wish the media would just leave this type of stuff alone. It's really no ones business what kind of financial shape the guy is in. If he brought it up then fine, but I don't think that was the case cause I remember an article on Post.com.

And whether he was broke or not, wouldn't most of us try and get as much $ as we could if we were in his shoes? Especially if you felt you were being low balled. I know I would. Bottom line is the guy is going to get a big raise and it's well deserved.
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:01 AM   #45
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I'm not in favor of Carlos moving on, unless of course his asking price is simply unrealistic. He's a good pass defender with an annoying habit of playing two games at once: Football and Hot Potato.
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