Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

skinsfan69 · 05-23-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

If we picked up VY and he turned out to be a nut case much to everyones surprise...shame on him.
If we KNOW he is a nutcase in advance....shame on us.
AND look to Jeff Fisher's opinion and success with VY.
I cannot see how it is....EVER a good move to bring in...ANY player that even...MIGHT be a problem in the locker room? If we as a team have not learned that, especially with the Big A debacle....shame on us...again.

Exactly. JF is one of the most respected guys in coaching. He gave up on the guy for a reason.

Ruhskins · 05-23-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

When it comes to the QB, character is crucial. You could argue that the QB is the most important person in any organization. Vince Young is not the guy that can lead an organization. The guy is in strip bars fighting with dudes in the bathroom, he's taking his shirt off in nightclubs, he throws his pads in the stands, he cries cause fans boo him, he goes aol while eating chicken wings, he's the last one in the building and the first one to leave. Total punk ass loser. There's no need to do any research cause everything is already out there and that's why he got cut.

And why would you trust Shanahan? He didn't do his homework on McNabb so I have little trust in him.

Well McNabb had character, but that didn't help much. Besides, MS was in win-now mode then.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Exactly. JF is one of the most respected guys in coaching. He gave up on the guy for a reason.

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Fisher: Vince Young can win in the NFL «

Jeff Fisher doesn't need to say anything nice about Young, but he is saying it. Maybe he is taking the high road, but maybe VY is not what the media makes him out to be.

Anyway, I don't think Young should be the anointed starter. But, if MS thinks he can work him, I don't see what's wrong with bringing him in to compete period. More importantly, I want to see if this team is able to bring a trouble player and make them work. Bringing in VY for a reasonable contact and have him not workout won't harm the team as much as the McNabb fiasco in my opinion.

skinsfan69 · 05-23-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well McNabb had character, but that didn't help much. Besides, MS was in win-now mode then.

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Fisher: Vince Young can win in the NFL «

Jeff Fisher doesn't need to say anything nice about Young, but he is saying it. Maybe he is taking the high road, but maybe VY is not what the media makes him out to be.

Anyway, I don't think Young should be the anointed starter. But, if MS thinks he can work him, I don't see what's wrong with bringing him in to compete period. More importantly, I want to see if this team is able to bring a trouble player and make them work. Bringing in VY for a reasonable contact and have him not workout won't harm the team as much as the McNabb fiasco in my opinion.

Yes McNabb has got great character, but if they watched the film then they would've saw he wasn't an accurate passer. They would've saw his mechanics sucked. Therefore there was no reason to give up the draft picks. They could've kept JC and got some o-linemen with those picks.

If our organization was strong like New England or Philly and we had an established starter, then I'd be all for bringing in VY. But we're not, and after all the nightmare free agent signings, there is no way we should even think about bringing him in. Not even as a back up. Yeah I changed my mind...I don't want him here. Period.

freddyg12 · 05-23-2011, 03:19 PM

With only 2 qb's, technically only 1 is under contract, it makes sense to bring in a vet. I'm not as opinionated on it as Skinsfan but overall it seems like a bad idea to me to bring in VY.

If he's signed, I would hope it would be to a deal that gave the skins options to get out & he is told that he'll have to win a job. I do have confidence in the new regime to get a deal that doesn't jeopardize the team's options.

SirClintonPortis · 05-23-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes McNabb has got great character, but if they watched the film then they would've saw he wasn't an accurate passer. They would've saw his mechanics sucked. Therefore there was no reason to give up the draft picks. They could've kept JC and got some o-linemen with those picks.

If our organization was strong like New England or Philly and we had an established starter, then I'd be all for bringing in VY. But we're not, and after all the nightmare free agent signings, there is no way we should even think about bringing him in. Not even as a back up. Yeah I changed my mind...I don't want him here. Period.

I think that Shanahan might have overestimated the team's capabilities and McNabb's willingness to fix his own game.

Dirtbag59 · 05-23-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes McNabb has got great character, but if they watched the film then they would've saw he wasn't an accurate passer. They would've saw his mechanics sucked. Therefore there was no reason to give up the draft picks. They could've kept JC and got some o-linemen with those picks.

Still you have to keep in mind that the Shanahans watched tape on Plummer and got a pro bowl out of him, and Plummer was certainly a lot worse then McNabb. I guess in the end the main difference was Plummer had been beat down enough and so hungry for success that he accepted the coaching better. McNabb on the other hand was accomplished and while hungry wasn't urgent enough to redo his mechanics. Sadly though he may redo them now wearing a wristband in his next stop and experience his career brought back to life all because we told him what to do.

Dirtbag59 · 05-24-2011, 04:15 AM

Cowboys game is about to go live. For some reason the Jag's game is giving me a lot of trouble with the editing software so I'll either have to start over or move on to another game. I'm thinking of doing a McNabb, Tampa video or some sort of game tape featuring ATV.

Anyway enjoy, this is a fun one to watch, especially when you notice how well Rex throws to short checkdowns, which I'm now thinking may be an extremely underrated part of his game. It amazed me how well he hit a lot of the checkdown routes in stride allowing the running backs to make plays. Torrain for example had 5 catches for 48 yards in this game.

Also Anthony Armstrong doesn't get nearly enough credit around here. That has to change soon

Hog1 · 05-24-2011, 10:12 AM

I REALLY had forgotten and I hope we are very agressive in FA for our O-line...If Rex is to play QB under the current Oline, he will heva to get faster...
Maybe that's the strategy? Get the fastest QB available???

CrustyRedskin · 05-24-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Disgusting. A QB (Mallet) should've been drafted.

yep.

CrustyRedskin · 05-24-2011, 12:57 PM

I say we keep Santana Moss around forever just to play the Cowboys.

Dirtbag59 · 05-24-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

I REALLY had forgotten and I hope we are very agressive in FA for our O-line...If Rex is to play QB under the current Oline, he will heva to get faster...
Maybe that's the strategy? Get the fastest QB available???

I don't know how much of it made it into the final video but the announcers, particularly Goose, were frequently commenting about how much time Rex had to throw that day. Granted they still gave up 5 sacks, but they still were doing a great job of protecting Rex for most of the day.

Heck, even Rabach looked good. It really might just be a case of keeping the group together. If you look at the Texans O-Line, they're really not that special in terms of names on the interior, in fact in terms of raw talent they're probably not as good as our 3 starters.

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I say we keep Santana Moss around forever just to play the Cowboys.

Funny thing about Moss is the fact that thanks to him we were in a position to win the game but on that final drive he dropped a very important pass that could have gone for a 20 or 30 yard gain.

Hog1 · 05-24-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I don't know how much of it made it into the final video but the announcers, particularly Goose, were frequently commenting about how much time Rex had to throw that day. Granted they still gave up 5 sacks, but they still were doing a great job of protecting Rex for most of the day.

Heck, even Rabach looked good. It really might just be a case of keeping the group together. If you look at the Texans O-Line, they're really not that special in terms of names on the interior, in fact in terms of raw talent they're probably not as good as our 3 starters.

Funny thing about Moss is the fact that thanks to him we were in a position to win the game but on that final drive he dropped a very important pass that could have gone for a 20 or 30 yard gain.

Yow....I was not counting how long he had to unload the ball, but it seems to me he spent a lot of time in collapsing pockets and avoiding DE's.
I only watched the first game so far.

Dirtbag59 · 05-24-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Yow....I was not counting how long he had to unload the ball, but it seems to me he spent a lot of time in collapsing pockets and avoiding DE's.
I only watched the first game so far.

True but I also saw enough plays where the O-Line was stopping 7 man rushes with only 6 guys. Again mixed feelings on line. Personnel similar in talent to previously successful Shanahan lines. 3 young players as well as marked improvement in second half of the season. Then again the number of sacks given up especially compared to the Houston line in 2009 (46-25) is disturbing.

Still can't deny how improved the unit was over the late 2008 and 2009 units.

GTripp0012 · 05-24-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

True but I also saw enough plays where the O-Line was stopping 7 man rushes with only 6 guys. Again mixed feelings on line. Personnel similar in talent to previously successful Shanahan lines. 3 young players as well as marked improvement in second half of the season. Then again the number of sacks given up especially compared to the Houston line in 2009 (46-25) is disturbing.

Still can't deny how improved the unit was over the late 2008 and 2009 units.

This was a much improved OL from other recent seasons. Will Montgomery was dreadful against Jacksonville, but he belongs at Center anyway. For what it's worth, 2010 was Rabach's best season since 2007. He's the worst pass blocking center in the league, but he's typically reliable at the second level and on screens.

Longtimefan · 05-24-2011, 08:00 PM

Dan Hellie......didn't see a John Beck pass over thirty yards at todays practice that wasn't a duck.

Rosenhaus: Rex Grossman is ‘ready to blossom with the Redskins’ - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post

05-23-2011, 03:19 PM	#34
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition With only 2 qb's, technically only 1 is under contract, it makes sense to bring in a vet. I'm not as opinionated on it as Skinsfan but overall it seems like a bad idea to me to bring in VY. If he's signed, I would hope it would be to a deal that gave the skins options to get out & he is told that he'll have to win a job. I do have confidence in the new regime to get a deal that doesn't jeopardize the team's options.

05-24-2011, 04:15 AM	#37
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,978	Cowboys Game Now Available Cowboys game is about to go live. For some reason the Jag's game is giving me a lot of trouble with the editing software so I'll either have to start over or move on to another game. I'm thinking of doing a McNabb, Tampa video or some sort of game tape featuring ATV. Anyway enjoy, this is a fun one to watch, especially when you notice how well Rex throws to short checkdowns, which I'm now thinking may be an extremely underrated part of his game. It amazed me how well he hit a lot of the checkdown routes in stride allowing the running backs to make plays. Torrain for example had 5 catches for 48 yards in this game. Also Anthony Armstrong doesn't get nearly enough credit around here. That has to change soon __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

05-24-2011, 10:12 AM	#38
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,415	Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition I REALLY had forgotten and I hope we are very agressive in FA for our O-line...If Rex is to play QB under the current Oline, he will heva to get faster... Maybe that's the strategy? Get the fastest QB available??? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

05-24-2011, 12:57 PM	#40
CrustyRedskin The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 2,008	Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition I say we keep Santana Moss around forever just to play the Cowboys. __________________ But you know the sun's settin' fast, and just like they say, nothing good ever lasts.

05-24-2011, 08:00 PM	#45
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition Dan Hellie......didn't see a John Beck pass over thirty yards at todays practice that wasn't a duck. Rosenhaus: Rex Grossman is ‘ready to blossom with the Redskins’ - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

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