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Old 05-21-2011, 06:15 AM   #1
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Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

I'll use this thread to post each of Sexy Rexy's 3 starts from this past season. Besides Rex is too awesome not to have his own 2011 thread. Everyone knows that he's the real starter.

Update: Cowboys game is now available.

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Rex Grossman Week 15 vs Cowboys 2nd Half

Giants Game

Rex Grossman Week 17 vs Giants 2nd Half

John Beck Preseason
John Beck 2010 Preseason vs Jets
John Beck 2010 Preseason vs Cardinals
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:19 AM   #2
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Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

Honestly Rex played better than I thought but im
Still in favor of JB if we even go that route. VY is my first choice
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:21 AM   #3
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Honestly Rex played better than I thought but im
Still in favor of JB if we even go that route. VY is my first choice
I don't know who my first choice is but after getting a refresher course in both Beck and Grossman I'm convinced now more then ever that they need to bring in Young for competition. Even if he has a blow up in the media. Shanahan's history suggest we'll be fine with Beck or Grossman but now I want to make absolutely sure.

Either way Grossman is clearly the best passer that...we have access to, only thing that gets in the way are these pesky fumbles weather they be from Rexy or other guys like Moss, but mostly Rexy.
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:27 AM   #4
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i dont rate vince young very highly at all. id honestly be upset if we brought him in. i just dont think hes a good nfl qb. id be happier with hasselbeck than him.
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:12 AM   #5
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Hasselbeck is solid, very solid. But I'd prefer not to sign anyone over 35. Especially, not at QB. We need youth there
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Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

I'm pretty convinced our long-term solution at QB (if we ever get one) isn't currently on our roster and won't be at any point in the 2011 season. So why not bring in VY? He's young, he's shown pro-bowl caliber flashes at times, and he'd come on the cheap.

At the end of the day, I think Beck, Young, and Grossman will never be more than average NFL starters.

I wish we had used one of those mid-late round picks on a guy like Ricky Stanzi. I'd rather have him on the roster as a 5th round pick than a Dejon Gomes.
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Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

Did anyone realize that Grossman is 24-14 as a starter? For all that talk of Vince Youngs winning record it's a wonder how Grossman goes overlooked.


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Disgusting. A QB (Mallet) should've been drafted.
I wouldn't say that. On one hand people throw out the "serviceable" label way to often, however I do feel that Grossman is the very definition of serviceable. He certainly can throw the ball around and can easily get you 250 yards in the air, problem is like Beck he's relatively short so a lot of his passes get batted down and he fumbles a lot a la Vick.

Personally right now I like him better then both Young and Beck, but I also like the upside of Young and Beck better. Either way I think they need to make sure that Grossman comes back.
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I wouldn't say that. On one hand people throw out the "serviceable" way to often, however I do feel that Grossman is the very definition of serviceable. He certainly can throw the ball around and can easily get you 250 yards in the air, problem is like Beck he's relatively short so a lot of his passes get batted down and he fumbles a lot a la Vick.

Personally right now I like him better then both Young and Beck, but I also like the upside of Young and Beck better. Either way I think they need to make sure that Grossman comes back.
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:34 PM   #10
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Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

I saw more bad offensive line play in those videos than I did bad QB play.
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:31 AM   #11
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I saw more bad offensive line play in those videos than I did bad QB play.
Thing is when you throw 44 times your going to have breakdowns in protection. It's much easier as a defensive lineman to not worry about defending the run (or as we called it in High School, "the fun"). Thats also part of the reason we had so many sacks as Kyle loved to/had to throw the ball around. If the Skins want to improve this year they absolutely have to improve the red zone offense.

Any QB will put up yards in this offense, both McNabb and Grossman proved that, what we need to find out is how to make those yards turn into Touchdowns.

Of course I don't know how much Kyle is to blame, the defense was plenty bad this year and from what I can tell Kyle didn't usually become pass happy until the second half, mainly because we were giving up so many points. I think he had a similar situation in Houston with their struggling Defense.

Ironically picking Kerrigan and Jenkins might have improved our O-Line as an improved defense means more flexibility in second half playcalling (ie not abandoning the run because you're down by 2 or 3 scores).

I still maintain that the O-Line could use an upgrade but I seriously don't believe they deserve anywhere near the amount of blame they got this past year.

Here look at this as I channel my inner G-Tripp:

2009: 20th in Pass Attempts with 533. 46 Sacks (Tied 4th Worse)

2010: 4th in Pass Attempts with 605. 46 sacks (5th Worse)

Believe it or not the O-Line is improving.

Then again there is a sobering stat.

Houston 2009: 4th in Pass Attempts with 593, 25 Sacks (5th Best)

Nevertheless it's still progress
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I'm pretty convinced our long-term solution at QB (if we ever get one) isn't currently on our roster and won't be at any point in the 2011 season. So why not bring in VY? He's young, he's shown pro-bowl caliber flashes at times, and he'd come on the cheap.

At the end of the day, I think Beck, Young, and Grossman will never be more than average NFL starters.

I wish we had used one of those mid-late round picks on a guy like Ricky Stanzi. I'd rather have him on the roster as a 5th round pick than a Dejon Gomes.

I really wish they had drafted a QB for the future, start Grossman to begin the year and then by week 3 or 4 promote the rookie.
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Re: Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

I was surprised at small amount of games Grossman has started in his career. Other than 2006 when he started 16 games, his next highest number is 8 games in 2007.

Year Starts
2003 3
2004 3
2005 2
2006 16
2007 8
2008 4
2009 1
2010 4

In 2006 where Grossman started 16 games he threw 20 interceptions. Last season Grossman threw 4 interceptions in just 4 games. Not good. This is a concern because Grossman has started 41 games and has already thrown 40 interceptions. He is a stop gap guy and that is all. I would rather play a young guy and let him learn then waste our time with Grossman who is never going to be elte.

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I think we must give Mike Shanahan a chance to work with the likes of Vince Young if he indeed comes here. I feel that Mike Shanahan the disciplinarian has had its ups (the changing of the culture with the team) and downs (Haynesworth and McNabb benching). But I think it could work if VY comes with the sense that this is a second chance and he has the opportunity to be a starter.

People always see the Patriots as the model organization (and they are right). One thing about that organization is that they have the leadership to take any slight problem player (see Randy Moss) and make them work out. We're not always going to get saints and model players in our team, but the team needs to develop a locker/coaching leadership that is able to handle these players and get them in line.
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I think we must give Mike Shanahan a chance to work with the likes of Vince Young if he indeed comes here. I feel that Mike Shanahan the disciplinarian has had its ups (the changing of the culture with the team) and downs (Haynesworth and McNabb benching). But I think it could work if VY comes with the sense that this is a second chance and he has the opportunity to be a starter.

People always see the Patriots as the model organization (and they are right). One thing about that organization is that they have the leadership to take any slight problem player (see Randy Moss) and make them work out. We're not always going to get saints and model players in our team, but the team needs to develop a locker/coaching leadership that is able to handle these players and get them in line.
You've got to be kidding me. The guy is not a leader of men. He's never going to be a top NFL QB where he can lead a team to a Super Bowl. He's simply not mentally tough enough to be a 16 game starter. I'm fine with him as a back up but nothing more.
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