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Old 12-21-2004, 12:38 PM   #1
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Anyone else notice this line from WP:

Asked if he's looking forward to next season and hoping Williams is still in Washington, and not the head coach somewhere else, Arrington said, "I think it's an opportunity for Gregg to coach a really good defense and get prepped to become a head coach once Coach Gibbs steps down."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Dec18.html

If nothing else this is loking great for the Redskins roster. No more turnover in the coaching ranks for 5 years or more.
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:44 PM   #2
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Yikes! Assuming that we'll have greatness again after Gibbs is done (which is a pretty fair assumption), if in fact Williams does take over the head coaching duties after Gibbs retires, I just hope it isn't another Richie Petitbone situation!
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:46 PM   #3
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Yeah that caught my eye too.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Gibbs and Williams discussed this before he signed on here and they have some sort of handshake agreement, or who knows maybe it's in his contract?
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:51 PM   #4
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Yikes! Assuming that we'll have greatness again after Gibbs is done (which is a pretty fair assumption), if in fact Williams does take over the head coaching duties after Gibbs retires, I just hope it isn't another Richie Petitbone situation!

William's is a far better coach than Pettibone, I am hoping for another Belichik, great defensive mind who learned offense and how to be a head coach between head coaching job's, I think William's has a much better shot at following in Belichk's footstep's than Pettibones.
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Old 12-21-2004, 02:56 PM   #5
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A great defensive mind doesn't have to know how to run an offense well. All he has to do is know how to pick who to run the offense. That's Gibbs' biggest asset, he knows who to surround himself with.
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Old 12-21-2004, 03:28 PM   #6
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I think that if Gregg Williams begins to consider another head coaching job Joe Gibbs should think about stepping down and becoming the GM only. I think that if Joe Gibbs is really committed to returning the Redskins to dynasty status he has to realize it will probably not happen under him. They could become a good team in the short term, but Joe Gibbs is not the long term solution at head coach. I know everyone realizes that and I think Joe has even said that. If Williams is offered a job that he would consider I think the Skins might want to think about this scenario.

I don't think this would be a bad idea at all. Joe Gibbs would be right upstairs. He could still mentor Gregg Williams in a way and he would be able to stay with the team. Like I said, Joe Gibbs is not the long term answer to the head coaching position in Washington. I think that Gregg Williams could be and if Joe is truly committed to returning this team to greatness (which I believe he is) he should give this some serious thought.
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Well, I really hope this is the scenario, though I worry that this is Lavar trying to will it to happen. How many d-coordiantors has he had? The D definetely loves Williams (as do we all). I really hope that behind the scenes Danny boy and Joe have made this offer to Williams. We'll see!!! Man, I hope so too, Lavar!

Optimum situation: Gibbs wins SB in thrid year, steps down to be only team pres (i.e., GM) and Williams takes over with a hot-shot O-coordinator to get the dynasty going!
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Old 12-21-2004, 03:38 PM   #8
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Optimum situation: Gibbs wins SB in thrid year, steps down to be only team pres (i.e., GM) and Williams takes over with a hot-shot O-coordinator to get the dynasty going!
No way! We win the Super Bowl this season, next season and then Gibbs retires after the third in a row. Williams takes over and we go for another 7 years. Then I wake up.
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A great defensive mind doesn't have to know how to run an offense well. All he has to do is know how to pick who to run the offense. That's Gibbs' biggest asset, he knows who to surround himself with.

Tell that to Buddy Ryan, If a head coach doesn't know how to run an offense than how is he supposed to know who does if he doesn't understand it himself, and then what does he do if that coordinator leaves for another job? Offensive geniouses are few and far between, if your going to open a restaurant and your cook is the buisness, you better be able to cook yourself because it's only a matter of time before he open's shop somewhere else and put's you out of buisness, many so called great coordiator's are the product of running system's that they have been taught, and fine tuned by the head coach, the HC makes sure the coordinator's run what he want's run, who do you think taught Belichik how to coach? Parcell's! Parcell's didn't get lucky and just happen to make a good hire, he made Belichik into the type of coach that he wanted, take a look at Gibb's he had several offensive coordinators during his first tenure and he never missed a beat, why? Because he controlled what they did, and that's what a coach does, that's why Wanstad is looking for a job right now he couldn't get the job done without Jimmy Johnson telling him what to do.
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I think that if Gregg Williams begins to consider another head coaching job Joe Gibbs should think about stepping down and becoming the GM only. I think that if Joe Gibbs is really committed to returning the Redskins to dynasty status he has to realize it will probably not happen under him. They could become a good team in the short term, but Joe Gibbs is not the long term solution at head coach. I know everyone realizes that and I think Joe has even said that. If Williams is offered a job that he would consider I think the Skins might want to think about this scenario.

I don't think this would be a bad idea at all. Joe Gibbs would be right upstairs. He could still mentor Gregg Williams in a way and he would be able to stay with the team. Like I said, Joe Gibbs is not the long term answer to the head coaching position in Washington. I think that Gregg Williams could be and if Joe is truly committed to returning this team to greatness (which I believe he is) he should give this some serious thought.

Yes, but he certainly is the short term solution, I would have a hard time believing the William's right now is a better offensive coach than Gibb's? I would also be more than a little scepticle about Gibb's GM abilities, he did give 43 mil. to Brunell, and traded for a system back with no power to run his ball control power running game and gave him 50mil to boot, and let us not forget his last draft pick before this past draft and 1 Desmond Howard, Gibb's ability to spot can't mis talent is a little off to say the least, fortuantly for us William's and co. where able to convince him to take Taylor, over Winslow.
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Tell that to Buddy Ryan, If a head coach doesn't know how to run an offense than how is he supposed to know who does if he doesn't understand it himself, and then what does he do if that coordinator leaves for another job? Offensive geniouses are few and far between, if your going to open a restaurant and your cook is the buisness, you better be able to cook yourself because it's only a matter of time before he open's shop somewhere else and put's you out of buisness, many so called great coordiator's are the product of running system's that they have been taught, and fine tuned by the head coach, the HC makes sure the coordinator's run what he want's run, who do you think taught Belichik how to coach? Parcell's! Parcell's didn't get lucky and just happen to make a good hire, he made Belichik into the type of coach that he wanted, take a look at Gibb's he had several offensive coordinators during his first tenure and he never missed a beat, why? Because he controlled what they did, and that's what a coach does, that's why Wanstad is looking for a job right now he couldn't get the job done without Jimmy Johnson telling him what to do.
You're missing the point of what I said.
Take JG for instance. He has turned over power to the defensive side of the ball to Gregg Williams. He trusts Williams (for good reason, apparently) and focuses on his side of the ball (offense). Now, take Gregg Williams and let him do the same thing as head coach, but he would then turn over reins to the offense.

If Buddy Ryan knew how to pick an OC, he would have been more successful. Wannstadt had a decent D, it was the offensive side of the ball that got him run out of town. It will be interesting to see just how much of that genious status Bellicheck will retain with Charlie Weiss in South Bend.
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I thought that was GREAT news about Williams..........anyone see Terry Bradshaw's 10 yards with Arrington........Question was whose better Lombardi or (all the other coaches you've had in your year's in the league.)Turner, Robiskie,Schottenheimer, Spurrier, Gibbs...................Arrington at first said Lombardi because he didn't want to have to recite all the names of all his coaches, but then he said.....if he just could pick one coah out of his group, he'd say Gibbs.............Poor Lavar...he just wants some stability in the Redskin coaching ranks, and I think the entire team would agree...

As for Williams being a defensive stratgiest and being head coach.....all you need it so higher a GOOD offensive coordianator....I think that is what was Pettibone's problem.....the offense was terrible..........
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