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Old 06-01-2011, 05:49 PM   #46
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You best pick that gauntlet back up!

No seriously though it's ok, I know Torain has his flaws. Even I've said he should be no more than our 1A, probably #2 option at RB.

But say anything bad about Chase Daniel or Justin Smith and heads will roll
You mean the short guy and the engine that couldn't get double digit sacks? Smoot did you by any chance go to Missouri?
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:59 PM   #47
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Ha, didn't even think that they both went to Missouri
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #48
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When I was at the Jacksonville game last year I noticed something, Toraine runs with a limp. You know who else runs with a limp, Adrien Peterson. That limp only comes with violent runners that run pissed. I think he's gonna kill it next year.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:35 PM   #49
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When I was at the Jacksonville game last year I noticed something, Toraine runs with a limp. You know who else runs with a limp, Adrien Peterson. That limp only comes with violent runners that run pissed. I think he's gonna kill it next year.
As good as AP is, he still can't block and he still can't catch either.

...In fact, that makes him a lot like Torain.

Honestly, as crazy as it sounds, if I were Mike Shanahan, I'd try to flip Ryan Torain for a third or fourth round draft pick. Shanahan has pretty much made a career out of trading running backs for either picks or players he needs.

Just something to float out there to keep the discussion floating.
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:57 PM   #50
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Eh why not?


By the way the producer of this show was pretty annoying having virtually every play for the Skins start with a close up of McNabb. Stupid stuff you don't notice until you try to edit tape, lol.
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As good as AP is, he still can't block and he still can't catch either.

...In fact, that makes him a lot like Torain.

Honestly, as crazy as it sounds, if I were Mike Shanahan, I'd try to flip Ryan Torain for a third or fourth round draft pick. Shanahan has pretty much made a career out of trading running backs for either picks or players he needs.

Just something to float out there to keep the discussion floating.
Interesting notion, however, the Redskins OL situation is nowhere near as settled as it was in Denver when they could pluck guys off the street who rushed for 1000 yards. Torain's done okay so I would like to keep him around till the line is settled more -- who knows, once Shanny gets the line up, we can trade Torain for a 2nd or more after he's rushed for 1200-1400 yards.
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Interesting notion, however, the Redskins OL situation is nowhere near as settled as it was in Denver when they could pluck guys off the street who rushed for 1000 yards. Torain's done okay so I would like to keep him around till the line is settled more -- who knows, once Shanny gets the line up, we can trade Torain for a 2nd or more after he's rushed for 1200-1400 yards.
I forget the actual number but last year I believe Torain was on pace for like 1,300 rushing yards over the course of a 16 game season.
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:38 PM   #53
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I forget the actual number but last year I believe Torain was on pace for like 1,300 rushing yards over the course of a 16 game season.
About 1200 from a look at his stats page and about 8 touchdowns -- let him do it without getting inured and there will be plenty of interested parties after next season. Let's not forget, he's only played in 12 games his whole career which is all of 3 years; the guy has got a lot of gas in the tank but seems to kind of, sort of have an injury problem
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shanny can make a 1 cut back look pretty good.
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shanny can make a 1 cut back look pretty good.
That's what I'm sayin'. I don't know why some people want us to spend big on a running back when Shanny can take an ordinary 1 cut back and make him look like a Pro Bowler. I don't think we have anything to be concerned about at RB with Torain, Helu, and Hightower back there this season.
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With some consistent run blocking we'll have a solid run game this season. Much of what Torrain did last year he did on his own....
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That's what I'm sayin'. I don't know why some people want us to spend big on a running back when Shanny can take an ordinary 1 cut back and make him look like a Pro Bowler. I don't think we have anything to be concerned about at RB with Torain, Helu, and Hightower back there this season.
Totally, with the busted up OL, Torain still managed a respectable 4.5 a carry and was on pace for like 1200 yards which is damn impressive given how crappy the rest of the offense was. I fully believe that with even an average passing game and with an improved OL (no Rabach is a great start), Torain could put up decent numbers.
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:28 AM   #58
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Torain
Hightower
Helu
K. Williams

I don't wanna see 5 rbs on the chart.
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That's what I'm sayin'. I don't know why some people want us to spend big on a running back when Shanny can take an ordinary 1 cut back and make him look like a Pro Bowler. I don't think we have anything to be concerned about at RB with Torain, Helu, and Hightower back there this season.
Well, Ahmad Bradshaw is the best back available, and he would make night and day difference over anyone else we could acquire, but assuming he's not coming here on a 3 year deal (or shorter), we might as well roll with what we have on the roster.

There are a couple of home-run hitters in free agency who would look good somewhere on our depth chart though.
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The thing that bothers me is how few carries I'm finding in the second half of games and so far I've come up with only two explanations. Either the defense has allowed to many points (Dallas and Indy) or they're getting tired in the second half and giving up long drives allowing the opposition to control possession in the second half (Tampa). Either way this has to change.
First of all, thanks for all the hard work uploading these vids.

Now, to your question about the lack of carries in the 2nd half -- if you notice, especially in the Tampa Bay game, they have a whole lot of rushing yardage, but not many points. By the 2nd half, time becomes a factor, and if you're not reaching the endzone by running, you have to try to do it passing.

Then you have the typical issue of opposing defenses adjusting their game plans at the half and clamping down on run, making in generally less effective.
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