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Old 06-06-2011, 11:16 AM   #16
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Re: Question about 2000-2001 QB Situation here

The Jeff George signing was a bigger mess than it ever needed to be. And this was during my peak years with the team (not exactly with the team, but close to them) so I watched this all go down up close and personal.

The first problem was the chaos that was the ownership transition following The Squire's death. If there was some stability in the ownership group, we likely would have been able to lock up Trent Green for a long-term contract. Yet, we couldn't because of the ownership mess..but somehow were able to trade multiple high round picks for Brad Johnson.

Then it was decided, rightly I believe to sign a veteran QB to back up Brad Johnson who had been injury prone with a broken leg, broken thumb, and herniated disc over the course of just two years. Unfortunately, Snyder decided to go after the biggest, most polarizing figure out there in Jeff George. But it was supposed to be a one year deal (two years really, with the team option to get out after one year) that was pretty low in terms of cost. But George's agent played Snyder like the football rookie that he was (as well as Joe Mendes) and convinced the Redskins George's services were in high demand (though they likely never were) and the team had to up its offer. So we ended up with a 4 year $19 million deal for George.

Then, Marty came along and started cutting much of the fat. And he had a QB in mind he wanted to bring on board and that QB also wanted to come to the Redskins (Doug Flutie). But his hands were tied with George's contract, even though they got George to reduce his contract it still wasn't enough. So he thought well maybe this can work out with George, but after two games it was obvious it wouldn't. So he figured well, Tony Banks just got cut he's a veteran than can hold the team together while we develop the QB we just drafted (Sage Rosenfels).

So it was a total mess, but not like McNabb.

To me, Jeff George getting sacked at the end of the 2000 season by Ebenezar Ekuban and then being dragged around on the field while none of his teammates did anything was the perfect metaphor for the culture of the Redskins during that era.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:46 AM   #17
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Re: Question about 2000-2001 QB Situation here

If he was here for 2 seasons, did he ever show us anything promising that gave anybody any hope?? I mean i watched some clips of him and it looked at least to me like he maybe had the biggest arm in the NFL at that time.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:49 AM   #18
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Check out his stats from the first 2 games of the 2001 season, he was a horrible fit in Marty's offense and he flat out stunk. He played ok in limited action under Norv. He always had a gun, but not much else. He famously once said he felt leadership at QB was overrated. Sums up how he was as a QB.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:53 AM   #19
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I looked at his stats and he did indeed suck in 2001.

I also looked at a list of starting QBs since Snyder has owned the team, and out of about 10 different people, it looked to me that only 3 QB's were actually good here:

Brad Johnson (1999, 2000)
Mark Brunell (2005)
Todd Collins (2007)
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:01 PM   #20
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Re: Question about 2000-2001 QB Situation here

sad thing about looking back at the danny's time here, we're still in much the same boat as we were doing those terrible years when qb was unstable- 2 vet qb's under contract, one highly likely to leave, the other very unproven. And then there's Rex.
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:05 PM   #21
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Instability has been the theme here under Snyder. Hard to win when you're always changing QBs and coaches.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:06 PM   #22
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If he was here for 2 seasons, did he ever show us anything promising that gave anybody any hope?? I mean i watched some clips of him and it looked at least to me like he maybe had the biggest arm in the NFL at that time.
Jeff George had a million dollar arm and a 10 cent head. I'll never forget JG being dragged around Texas Stadium by a Cowboy and not a single Redskin coming to his rescue. It spoke volumes to me about what his team mates thought of him.
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To me, Jeff George getting sacked at the end of the 2000 season by Ebenezar Ekuban and then being dragged around on the field while none of his teammates did anything was the perfect metaphor for the culture of the Redskins during that era.
Hey I went to high school with this guy (completely random and unrelated sidenote).
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Jeff George had a million dollar arm and a 10 cent head. I'll never forget JG being dragged around Texas Stadium by a Cowboy and not a single Redskin coming to his rescue. It spoke volumes to me about what his team mates thought of him.
Does anyone have the video of that?????? I cant find it anywhere!!!!
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Does anyone have the video of that?????? I cant find it anywhere!!!!
I dont have one but I wish I did. It was one of the funniest things I ever saw in sports.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:40 PM   #26
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I dont have one but I wish I did. It was one of the funniest things I ever saw in sports.
I remember that so well. Spoke volumes about what a mega d-bag JG was. Such a shame, too, because if he had the leadership and attitude he could have been one of the greats. His arm strength and quick release were amazing.
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This a big part of why Dan Snyder no longer wants to be part of the player personnel decision making.
Dan did not land any other big name QB's, but he tried. There were big rumors he tried to get Cutler. BUt chicago surprised everyone with the 2 first rounders and Orton. I am sure Danny was a close second in the bidding war.
Don't be totally sold on the first line of your post. Dan Snyder speaks is like listening to a politician running for office.....take a look at a few of his contradictions......not trying to h/j the thread :cool-smil

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I still think the Arch Deluxe was the biggest fail (behind Haynesworthless). To tell Clark you were done over paying players, and turn around and sign Archuletta to that mega contract was the icing on the cake. Clark wanted peanuts to resign with us. I agree with you that the George move was and has been a horrible move in our history.
But he could workout like no other
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Re: Question about 2000-2001 QB Situation here

I remember his spectacular performance against the unstoppable RAMS on Monday night. Who were our starting WR's back then? Anyone memorable?
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I remember his spectacular performance against the unstoppable RAMS on Monday night. Who were our starting WR's back then? Anyone memorable?
Fryar, Connell, Westbrook come to mind... Thrash too. Westbrook was injured for most of that year though. Centers led the team in catches.

I do remember that Rams game and a long TD he threw. Threw it on a line, just perfect.
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