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Old 06-08-2011, 01:31 PM   #16
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Exactly! A firm foundation must be laid by a firm hand. He needs to show everyone, in exponential terms, that he runs the show and no BS will be tolerated. To do that, you need to make some examples of problem players to set the tone for the greater good (rest of the team) before you have a winning culture.
Or just get rid of them by releasing them or trading them, which is what Bill Belichick did this past off season with Richard Seymour (not really a problem, but obviously the team didn't want him there), Randy Moss (didn't want to be with the team, so he was released), and Adalius Thomas (problem child that would not get with the plan, released before the draft).

Meanwhile, you are asking the team to be like the Bengals, a team whose owner insists on keeping malcontents on the team.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:00 PM   #17
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I still don't get why the team insists on keeping this guy. Just get rid of him.
Easier said than done. Snyder is not going to let this joke of a person walk away and sign with another team after paying him almost 40 mil for a handful of games played. As much as I wish he'd go away I kind of side with the Redskins on this.
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Or just get rid of them by releasing them or trading them, which is what Bill Belichick did this past off season with Richard Seymour (not really a problem, but obviously the team didn't want him there), Randy Moss (didn't want to be with the team, so he was released), and Adalius Thomas (problem child that would not get with the plan, released before the draft).

Meanwhile, you are asking the team to be like the Bengals, a team whose owner insists on keeping malcontents on the team.
Well the Pats got high draft picks for both Seymour and Moss. The Pats don't get taken on trades, they do the taking. So far I'm not sure anyone out ther is offering us a high draft pick for Train Wreck.
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I would trade him at the first opportunity, for whatever we can get. Even if it's a 7th round pick, ship him outta here. Hopefully to an NFL wasteland like Buffalo.
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What's the effect on us if one of his various legal problems (and the no doubt future ones to befall him) lands him in jail? Hard to imagine he can continue on his current path and not meet that fate in the next few years. Maybe we should send him out clubbing with Plax.
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I would trade him at the first opportunity, for whatever we can get. Even if it's a 7th round pick, ship him outta here. Hopefully to an NFL wasteland like Buffalo.
wouldn't do it. they have to get at least a 3rd rounder. if they can't get fair market value then keep him here and let him rot on the bench. i'm in total favor of making an example of him.
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I don't think another year of his distractions would be a good thing for the team, you could see guys were sick of hearing/talking about him last year. No sense in cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's best to move on.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:34 PM   #23
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The problem with letting him rot on the bench, is that it potentially takes up a roster spot for someone else we need. Given the choice between having Albert Haynesworth sit on the roster all year doing nothing and having Chris Neild make the football team, I'll take the latter, just for example.
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Well the Pats got high draft picks for both Seymour and Moss. The Pats don't get taken on trades, they do the taking. So far I'm not sure anyone out ther is offering us a high draft pick for Train Wreck.
But they straight up cut Adalius Thomas, who was the true problem child of that bunch. The point is that Belichick doesn't keep malcontents around. Heck, Chucky got rid of Keyshawn Johnson after he was suspended (similar to the Haynesworth suspension).
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I still don't get why the team insists on keeping this guy. Just get rid of him.
You already paid him. Donít give him the opportunity to go some where else and get this grand revelation that he wants to be a team player, so he can get paid again. I say keep him long enough for him do something else dumb and get suspended from the league and have to pay some of the bonus money back.
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You already paid him. Donít give him the opportunity to go some where else and get this grand revelation that he wants to be a team player, so he can get paid again. I say keep him long enough for him do something else dumb and get suspended from the league and have to pay some of the bonus money back.

He doesn't have to do anything else, he's going to get suspended by the league when it resumes. Beating up a motorist, and now the sexual assault allegations (compounded with his prior past) is going to lead to a suspension. I'd bet good money on it.
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We definitely don't need to spend another entire season talking about Albert Haynesworth. That's exactly what will happen if he's anywhere around to be talked about. Time to move ahead.
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But they straight up cut Adalius Thomas, who was the true problem child of that bunch. The point is that Belichick doesn't keep malcontents around. Heck, Chucky got rid of Keyshawn Johnson after he was suspended (similar to the Haynesworth suspension).
The difference is Thomas was not paid the type of money that AH is getting, nor was he this big of a distraction. Also KeyShawn at least was a productive player for TB. So far we've basically got nothing out of AH. If AH is going to disrespect the team that paid him millions then he shouldn't be allowed to be a free agent. Sit and rot.
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My only concern with "just cut him" is that I don't want him going to hte NFC East. Maybe he stays a POS, maybe he becomes a monster against us.

Ship him out for a 7th to Buffalo or Cincinatti, even if it's a 7th rounder in 2018.
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My only concern with "just cut him" is that I don't want him going to hte NFC East. Maybe he stays a POS, maybe he becomes a monster against us.

Ship him out for a 7th to Buffalo or Cincinatti, even if it's a 7th rounder in 2018.
Exactly. Philly would benefit tremendously from a fraction of the 2008 Haynesworth. Last time they got to the Super Bowl came in large part due to their defense, which allowed 16 points a game during the 04-05 playoffs. Bunkley, Patterson, Haynesworth, and Laws paired with Cole on the edge would give them a heck of a rotation.
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