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Old 06-13-2011, 07:38 AM   #61
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I agree totally. The best thing for the Skins to do is suspend Albert from the team and take him before the Special Masters Office of the NFL to address the non-performance of a contract signed by Albert.

He is taking up a roster spot and if another team wants him they would have to wait until the above hearing would produce a verdict.

Using him as an example is getting tired and its time to move on.
I didn't know that such recourse was available to the Redskins. Why not use it, then? After all, he's useless to them and I'm pretty sure his contract doesn't state that he will only play on 3rd down in a 3-4 defense and then only if he is allowed to freelance.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:36 AM   #62
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I swear Fat Als half dumb...

He's probally such a weird locker room guy too..

CUT THIS BUM.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:59 AM   #63
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*Haynesworth may not leave quickly and quietly. After what Jim Haslett had to say about Albert Haynesworth not wanting to do anything, it would appear that the free agent bust has lost his last possible supporter in the organization. But donít look for the Redskins to release him as soon as the NFL lockout ends as some expect (and as most are hoping). Mike Shanahan does not want to set a precedent that bad behavior will get you the freedom to go out and cut a free agent deal with a seven-figure bonus check. And he wonít dump him for a late draft pick after paying him all that money. There is a chance there will be a clean break that takes place soon after transactions are allowed but donít be surprised if there is further drama when the lockout is lifted.
The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
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The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
*deep sigh*
We fd up.. we fd up bad.
I can't believe we all wanted this guy too I still remember the threads myself included.
Hell never be able to play good enough to stop the media either.
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The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
Why are you so worried about the media asking the players about AH? It's not a big a deal as you think it is. It's not like it has an outcome on the games. If the players let this effect their performance then they're probably not someone we want anyway.
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The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
Screw the media. They'll be on us no matter what we do, it's always been that way, at least since Dan Snyder became the owner. They'll still rehash their same worn out lines about Snyder interfering and us blindly spending on everything that walks, even though those things aren't true anymore. Snyder has actually become the owner he should be, letting real football guys make the decisions. Haynesworth is a pre-Allen/Shanahan mess and it will be over soon enough. Then, they'll go back to bashing us for something else and if desperate for a real story, say we have a racost name and stir that political pot again.

If Haynesworth had even tried and played up to his actual talent level, no one would be complaining about his ridiculously-high contract or saying we're "disfunctional". The team can not be bashed much for this mess, other than taking a risk. Albert was a Pro-Bowl player, one of the best D-linemen in the game...and simply laid down and stopped trying. In the few instances he did try last year (Chicago game for example), he showed his dominance and what we paid for, but the majority of his time here, he's been a selfish, lazy headcase with legal issues to boot.

Yes I want him gone, but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:37 PM   #67
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Why are you so worried about the media asking the players about AH? It's not a big a deal as you think it is. It's not like it has an outcome on the games. If the players let this effect their performance then they're probably not someone we want anyway.
I am not worry about the media, but why are you so worry about having "Haynesworth learn his lesson?" Don't tell me that it is about money, because the Redskins have lost money like that before many times over . And don't give me the "change of culture" BS, because teams like the Bengals insist on keeping malcontents, and it hasn't gotten them anywhere. And unless you have recently seen articles about players not caring about this issue, I don't know how you are "sure" that the players on the team are okay with this circus continuing.

Please explain to me WHY is it more important to keep this guy on the team and "teach him his lesson", rather than moving on and continue to build the team? Are people's feelings hurt because this guy lied to the team? On the one hand you say players should suck it up and not care about this locker room problem, but on the other hand many fans and the team are keeping a grudge and want to see this guy "destroyed"? Where's the obsession?

Part of rebuilding is moving on from the mistakes made in the past. I don't get the obsession on keeping this issue alive.
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Yes I want him gone, but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.
If you want him gone I have no argument against you. I just don't understand people's obsession with keeping the guy on the team. I have yet to read an argument that makes sense. Sadly, it seems that the NFL hasn't cared much about Haynesworth's issues (surprisingly) and suspended him. Unless that happen, he's just going to sit on the bench utilizing a roster spot and getting paid. Hell, that already happened last season.
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Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.
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If you want him gone I have no argument against you. I just don't understand people's obsession with keeping the guy on the team. I have yet to read an argument that makes sense. Sadly, it seems that the NFL hasn't cared much about Haynesworth's issues (surprisingly) and suspended him. Unless that happen, he's just going to sit on the bench utilizing a roster spot and getting paid. Hell, that already happened last season.
Let's hope that doesn't happen again this season. My greatest concern about having AH around is that we will be adding 12 draftees plus any UDFA's (and probably some veteran FA's) to the squad by training camp and I don't want him to be a bad example to impressionable young players. I hope that Redskins management will trade or release him by then.
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Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.
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And how could the league suspend him right now anyway?
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Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and using him to teach the team a lesson. I donít think Shanahan really cares about the money Danny spent on AH, I think its more about the laziness and unwilliness that AH shows, the fact that he took the bonus check (instead of finding a trade partner) then not showing up to minicamp, then showing up out of shape to mandatory camp, then refusing to play NT, and then pretty much refusing to play at all. Sure AH stole money from Danny (who wouldnít), but he also betrayed Shanahan. Now AH is the main subject in teaching The Redskins (the players) a lesson.

I dont really care one way or another if we keep him or not but if I was forced to choose i think keeping him is probably the better option. And im pretty much cool with whatever Shanahan decides to do with him, im guessing he has a better idea with what resonates with a football team then me. And like Shanahan and Allen probably feel I honestly donít think itís a big deal or distraction for the team. Its probably awkward for the guy that has his locker right next to AHís but thatís about it. Because of AHís past play and massive contract hes a high profile dude and a lot of people are going to take notice when he fís up. When a high profile crime is committed most DAís try to send a message by really sticking it to the bad guy. This is pretty much the same thing. The media may boo-hoo whats going on or make it out to be a big deal, but so what. The Redskins happen to be one of the most dysfunctional teams in the country. Until we consistently win it doesnít matter what the media thinks of us or portrays us as, because lets face itÖÖ weíre irrelevant.
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Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and using him to teach the team a lesson.
Which players need to be taught a lesson?
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Which players need to be taught a lesson?
Ha! That's funny.
It was our former FO that made the mistake. It is our current FO and coach that thought they could trust AH to play in a 3-4 and give him a big check.
They had the option of getting rid of him at that time and not giving him the check. The current players on our roster did nothing wrong and do not need to be taught a lesson. Other than playing like Shizen and getting better on the field.
A post-it to the forehead would do the same thing and be less costly. The salary cap most likely will be back next season and I do not want a player on the bench collecting a big check. No lesson in the world is worth that.
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Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.
Yeah the sports reporters were saying the eagles had offered us a 4th in last years draft. This is a sad, odd situation.

I agree with Ruhskins, time to just move on and I was one who wanted him to rot out on the bench for 2 more years.

Eff it, he burned us for about 20 extra mil. Time to cut the losses and just move on . . . . after we find a way of ensuring he doesnt go to the NFC east.
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