ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122.

skinsfaninok · 06-15-2011, 01:14 PM

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The Redskins continue the downward spiral in media reputation.

Dirtbag59 · 06-15-2011, 01:27 PM

What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAPP! lawsuit.

Monkeydad · 06-15-2011, 01:56 PM

That's a joke. We're not one of the best-run but we're nowhere near that. The Pirates beat is? ESPN is becoming a trash source on par with the National Enquirer.

We've won 5 championships and been in 5 Super Bowls, winning 3. That should put us mid-pack at least. Our coach is a 2-time champ and we're turning things around after a bad decade.

As for "media reputation", who cares...they're the same idiots who sold some of us on "Hope and Change" too. That turned out well.

Dirtbag59 · 06-15-2011, 02:00 PM

Down with ESPN worse media outlet EVER. All of their on air personalities and writers are terrible. Not to mention their employees who are probably the most arrogant and self absorbed people in the solar system. Like seriously, how bad are their employees. They make the people at Enron look like saints.

Meks · 06-15-2011, 02:07 PM

To this? I say suck a meat-sack ESPN.

Pirates
MARLINS
ROYALS
CLIPPERS

JUST .... to name a few off the top of my head and I don't feel like typing the 20 more or so in that are out there worse off then we are.

Go suck off Tony romo and stop writing shit.

SmootSmack · 06-15-2011, 02:12 PM

I believe things are turning around for the team. Wishful thinking perhaps? Maybe, but we took a precipitous drop over the past two years. I know I mentioned it to some people here but in terms of fan surveys (people ranking their favorite teams, how they feel about certain organizations, etc.) the Redskins are at the lowest they have been in over 15 years. They dropped significantly in the last survey

All the past championships the franchise has won and rings our head coach has are irrelevant to this report.

Do I think 2nd to last is too low? Yes, as do many other people here (contrary to popular belief-there are a lot of high ranking people here who are Redskins fans), but hopefully this is as bad as it gets for us., and let's not kid ourselve into pretending Super Bowls won as "recently" as 20 years ago should allow us to ignore all the issues of today.

SmootSmack · 06-15-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Down with ESPN worse media outlet EVER. All of their on air personalities and writers are terrible. Not to mention their employees who are probably the most arrogant and self absorbed people in the solar system. Like seriously, how bad are their employees. They make the people at Enron look like saints.

Son, we live in a world that has sports, and those sports have to be covered by the media. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Dirtbag? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom! You weep for Jack Kent Cooke and you curse the Cowboys. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know

You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us at ESPN! You need us at ESPN!

and so on...

Ruhskins · 06-15-2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Son, we live in a world that has sports, and those sports have to be covered by the media. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Dirtbag? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom! You weep for Jack Kent Cooke and you curse the Cowboys. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know

You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us at ESPN! You need us at ESPN!

and so on...

MonkFan4Life · 06-15-2011, 02:28 PM

HA ! Lavar and Dukes, Sportsradio 106, 7 The FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN !!!

Ha, they just gave lavar and chad about 2 1/2 hours of material !

Eff 'em all ! I'm down with the second worst franchise in the nation until I die ! Hail Mother Effers !

Ruhskins · 06-15-2011, 02:30 PM

I hear that NC_Skins contributed a lot to this piece, hence the low rankings. LOL. (I kid, I kid).

I still don't get how the Orioles and Nats are ranked higher than the Skins.

mlmpetert · 06-15-2011, 02:49 PM

"The “Best Franchises In Sports” feature is part of ESPN The Magazine’s Ultimate Standings methodology study, which determines an overall ranking for pro sports franchises according to how much they give back to fans for the time, money and emotion they invest in them.
The rankings are determined by a multi-tiered analysis that examines a team’s efficiency in spending fan money as compared to its on-field performance. It also factors in feedback in 21 categories from more than 70,000 fans nationwide, both online at ESPN.com and in polling conducted by both independent third parties."

The “Best Franchises In Sports” feature is part of ESPN The Magazine’s Ultimate Standings methodology study, which determines an overall ranking for pro sports franchises according to how much they give back to fans for the time, money and emotion they invest in them.

The rankings are determined by a multi-tiered analysis that examines a team’s efficiency in spending fan money as compared to its on-field performance. It also factors in feedback in 21 categories from more than 70,000 fans nationwide, both online at ESPN.com and in polling conducted by both independent third parties."

^ based off of this it kind of makes sense. We have a huge fan base that puts tons of emotion, time and money to the team and most people have been pretty upset. I think were definitely a little too low though. But at least we don’t really have anywhere to go but up, right? SS do you have insight on the other 21categories?

NLC1054 · 06-15-2011, 02:57 PM

They hate our owner, they hate our coach because of the McNabb thing.

I mean, that's the only reason we're the 121st worst franchise. Because everyone hates Dan Snyder (it's cool to hate Dan Snyder like it's cool to hate Justin Bieber nowadays), and everyone hates Mike Shanahan because he benched Donovan McNabb, so that makes us the 2nd worst franchise.

There's still 80,000 or more people that fill FedEx Field every week. We're still one of the most profitable franchises in the NFL. We did make the playoffs in 2007. We're clearly in rebuild mode, which should be a good thing, since we're finally acknowledging that we need to rebuild.

Basically, the media at large needs a team to beat up on, so they can either 1.) laugh at every misfortune, even if the mistakes are relatively small, or 2.) be faux-shocked that they do well. It used to be the Lions, right now it's the Redskins.

SmootSmack · 06-15-2011, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

"The “Best Franchises In Sports” feature is part of ESPN The Magazine’s Ultimate Standings methodology study, which determines an overall ranking for pro sports franchises according to how much they give back to fans for the time, money and emotion they invest in them.
The rankings are determined by a multi-tiered analysis that examines a team’s efficiency in spending fan money as compared to its on-field performance. It also factors in feedback in 21 categories from more than 70,000 fans nationwide, both online at ESPN.com and in polling conducted by both independent third parties."

The “Best Franchises In Sports” feature is part of ESPN The Magazine’s Ultimate Standings methodology study, which determines an overall ranking for pro sports franchises according to how much they give back to fans for the time, money and emotion they invest in them.

The rankings are determined by a multi-tiered analysis that examines a team’s efficiency in spending fan money as compared to its on-field performance. It also factors in feedback in 21 categories from more than 70,000 fans nationwide, both online at ESPN.com and in polling conducted by both independent third parties."

^ based off of this it kind of makes sense. We have a huge fan base that puts tons of emotion, time and money to the team and most people have been pretty upset. I think were definitely a little too low though. But at least we don’t really have anywhere to go but up, right? SS do you have insight on the other 21categories?

Like what sort of insight do you mean?

mlmpetert · 06-15-2011, 03:16 PM

Nevermind i had trouble getting the espn webpage to load ealier...... I was kind of wrong on the 21 categories thing. I think this answears what i was trying to ask:

In all, 122 teams from the NFL, NBA, NHL and Major League Baseball were ranked in order, based on a weighted average of scores in eight different categories ranging from the quantitative to the emotionally subjective: “bang for the buck” (24.3%), players (16.6%), fan relations (16.5%), affordability (14.1%), stadium experience (9.1%), ownership (9.0%), title track (6.7%), and coaching (3.9%).

But based off of this im not even sure how they factored in the 21 categories the fans voted on.... not sure it matters....

Monkeydad · 06-15-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meks

To this? I say suck a meat-sack ESPN.

Pirates
MARLINS
ROYALS
CLIPPERS

JUST .... to name a few off the top of my head and I don't feel like typing the 20 more or so in that are out there worse off then we are.

Go suck off Tony romo and stop writing shit.

You've said it perfectly for all of us.

06-15-2011, 01:14 PM	#1
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. Packers named best franchise in sports, Bengals named worst \| ProFootballTalk The Redskins continue the downward spiral in media reputation. __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

06-15-2011, 01:27 PM	#2
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAPP! lawsuit. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

06-15-2011, 01:56 PM	#3
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,884	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. That's a joke. We're not one of the best-run but we're nowhere near that. The Pirates beat is? ESPN is becoming a trash source on par with the National Enquirer. We've won 5 championships and been in 5 Super Bowls, winning 3. That should put us mid-pack at least. Our coach is a 2-time champ and we're turning things around after a bad decade. As for "media reputation", who cares...they're the same idiots who sold some of us on "Hope and Change" too. That turned out well. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

06-15-2011, 02:00 PM	#4
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. Down with ESPN worse media outlet EVER. All of their on air personalities and writers are terrible. Not to mention their employees who are probably the most arrogant and self absorbed people in the solar system. Like seriously, how bad are their employees. They make the people at Enron look like saints. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

06-15-2011, 02:07 PM	#5
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. To this? I say suck a meat-sack ESPN. Pirates MARLINS ROYALS CLIPPERS JUST .... to name a few off the top of my head and I don't feel like typing the 20 more or so in that are out there worse off then we are. Go suck off Tony romo and stop writing shit. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

06-15-2011, 02:12 PM	#6
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. I believe things are turning around for the team. Wishful thinking perhaps? Maybe, but we took a precipitous drop over the past two years. I know I mentioned it to some people here but in terms of fan surveys (people ranking their favorite teams, how they feel about certain organizations, etc.) the Redskins are at the lowest they have been in over 15 years. They dropped significantly in the last survey All the past championships the franchise has won and rings our head coach has are irrelevant to this report. Do I think 2nd to last is too low? Yes, as do many other people here (contrary to popular belief-there are a lot of high ranking people here who are Redskins fans), but hopefully this is as bad as it gets for us., and let's not kid ourselve into pretending Super Bowls won as "recently" as 20 years ago should allow us to ignore all the issues of today. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-15-2011, 02:28 PM	#9
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,830	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. HA ! Lavar and Dukes, Sportsradio 106, 7 The FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN !!! Ha, they just gave lavar and chad about 2 1/2 hours of material ! Eff 'em all ! I'm down with the second worst franchise in the nation until I die ! Hail Mother Effers ! __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

06-15-2011, 02:30 PM	#10
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. I hear that NC_Skins contributed a lot to this piece, hence the low rankings. LOL. (I kid, I kid). I still don't get how the Orioles and Nats are ranked higher than the Skins. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

06-15-2011, 02:49 PM	#11
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,208	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. "The “Best Franchises In Sports” feature is part of ESPN The Magazine’s Ultimate Standings methodology study, which determines an overall ranking for pro sports franchises according to how much they give back to fans for the time, money and emotion they invest in them. The rankings are determined by a multi-tiered analysis that examines a team’s efficiency in spending fan money as compared to its on-field performance. It also factors in feedback in 21 categories from more than 70,000 fans nationwide, both online at ESPN.com and in polling conducted by both independent third parties." The “Best Franchises In Sports” feature is part of ESPN The Magazine’s Ultimate Standings methodology study, which determines an overall ranking for pro sports franchises according to how much they give back to fans for the time, money and emotion they invest in them. The rankings are determined by a multi-tiered analysis that examines a team’s efficiency in spending fan money as compared to its on-field performance. It also factors in feedback in 21 categories from more than 70,000 fans nationwide, both online at ESPN.com and in polling conducted by both independent third parties." ^ based off of this it kind of makes sense. We have a huge fan base that puts tons of emotion, time and money to the team and most people have been pretty upset. I think were definitely a little too low though. But at least we don’t really have anywhere to go but up, right? SS do you have insight on the other 21categories? __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

06-15-2011, 02:57 PM	#12
NLC1054 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 276	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. They hate our owner, they hate our coach because of the McNabb thing. I mean, that's the only reason we're the 121st worst franchise. Because everyone hates Dan Snyder (it's cool to hate Dan Snyder like it's cool to hate Justin Bieber nowadays), and everyone hates Mike Shanahan because he benched Donovan McNabb, so that makes us the 2nd worst franchise. There's still 80,000 or more people that fill FedEx Field every week. We're still one of the most profitable franchises in the NFL. We did make the playoffs in 2007. We're clearly in rebuild mode, which should be a good thing, since we're finally acknowledging that we need to rebuild. Basically, the media at large needs a team to beat up on, so they can either 1.) laugh at every misfortune, even if the mistakes are relatively small, or 2.) be faux-shocked that they do well. It used to be the Lions, right now it's the Redskins.

06-15-2011, 03:16 PM	#14
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,208	Re: ESPN the Magazine ranks the best & worst franchises in america. Redskins ranked 121 out of 122. Nevermind i had trouble getting the espn webpage to load ealier...... I was kind of wrong on the 21 categories thing. I think this answears what i was trying to ask: In all, 122 teams from the NFL, NBA, NHL and Major League Baseball were ranked in order, based on a weighted average of scores in eight different categories ranging from the quantitative to the emotionally subjective: “bang for the buck” (24.3%), players (16.6%), fan relations (16.5%), affordability (14.1%), stadium experience (9.1%), ownership (9.0%), title track (6.7%), and coaching (3.9%). But based off of this im not even sure how they factored in the 21 categories the fans voted on.... not sure it matters.... __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

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