Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal

Giantone · 06-22-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Funny thing is most of the "work" we do is sitting around the office. Usually people that are working more then 40 hours per week every week are procrastinating. O

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Wrong, you make an awful big assumption here.

CRedskinsRule · 06-22-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the biggest name for the Redskins should be Paul Soliai, the NT from Miami. The guy is 27 years old, 6'4", 355 lbs and has played well in Miami. Here's the scouting report on him:

"He is a load at the point of attack. He is a short-area block gobbler at the nose tackle position. He is strictly a first- and second-down player in Miami's scheme. He has zero sacks in his first three NFL seasons. He is a player who is a load at the point of attack. He plays with good leverage. He shows first step explosiveness getting into blockers. He uses his hands well to discard and make plays in line. His limitations are rushing the passer and making plays outside the A gaps."

Miami did use the Franchise Tag on him. Now, we don't know that it will still apply, but I think that is an indication that Miami isn't letting him go without a fight.

Dolphins use franchise tag on NT Soliai - NFL - Sporting News

CRedskinsRule · 06-22-2011, 09:23 AM

Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

SmootSmack · 06-22-2011, 09:43 AM

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SmootSmack · 06-22-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

CRedskinsRule · 06-22-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

Man, I hope you are right about that!!!

Ruhskins · 06-22-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Miami did use the Franchise Tag on him. Now, we don't know that it will still apply, but I think that is an indication that Miami isn't letting him go without a fight.

Dolphins use franchise tag on NT Soliai - NFL - Sporting News

I thought they had tendered him since the league was still under 2010 rules...but yeah from this article it seems that they used the franchise tag. Ugh. Maybe we can get Franklin?

freddyg12 · 06-22-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

Glad to hear you're confident about it. I was thinking that maybe the reports on this snowballed into this unofficial consensus that a deal was close to done, but in reality it might not be that close. In fairness, I've read that mid-july is realistic and anything could still happen.

With all the reporting now giving hope to the fans, it will be a major pr issue if this falls through. Guess that's one more reason that both sides need to get a deal.

SmootSmack · 06-22-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Glad to hear you're confident about it. I was thinking that maybe the reports on this snowballed into this unofficial consensus that a deal was close to done, but in reality it might not be that close. In fairness, I've read that mid-july is realistic and anything could still happen.

With all the reporting now giving hope to the fans, it will be a major pr issue if this falls through. Guess that's one more reason that both sides need to get a deal.

Mid July is realistic for free agency. For all intents and purposes, from all I've heard the deal is just about agreed upon (and I realize "just about" is as dangerous a term as "he has potential"), but it may take 2-3 weeks to make that a formal CBA.

53Fan · 06-22-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

SBXVII · 06-22-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

Thats why there is a mediator, and why the 8th Circuit has said they would hold off ruling as long as progress is being made.

Mattyk · 06-22-2011, 01:52 PM

Yeah I think as long as talks are progressing, there won't be a ruling. That is the last resort and nobody wants to see that happen.

BigHairedAristocrat · 06-22-2011, 06:45 PM

Given that the NFL won't lift the lockout until an actual CBA is finalized, and even an agreement in principle is still weeks away (and a CBA will take several More weeks or even months and then the whole legal process starts, then if the CBA is approved there's weeks of free agency and training camp) i just don't see how games won't be missed.

The players gave up some money- the owners should return hat good faith and lift the lockout, or atleast allow free agency to start, as soon as an agreement in principle is reached. Perhaps both sides can agree to follow 2010 fa rules until the agreement is done

Dirtbag59 · 06-22-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Wrong, you make an awful big assumption here.

Have you not seen the stats of how much time is spent during the workday on non-work related activities?

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Giantone · 06-22-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Have you not seen the stats of how much time is spent during the workday on non-work related activities?

Oh you mean the stats from that survey payed for by "big business" oh please !Myself and thousands others like me are on standards from the time we get to work to the time we leave so don't throw some BS out there and think it applies to all.America on Line....(AOL) really???

06-22-2011, 09:23 AM	#78
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,910	Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

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Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,714	Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal Yeah I think as long as talks are progressing, there won't be a ruling. That is the last resort and nobody wants to see that happen. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

06-22-2011, 06:45 PM	#88
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,812	Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal Given that the NFL won't lift the lockout until an actual CBA is finalized, and even an agreement in principle is still weeks away (and a CBA will take several More weeks or even months and then the whole legal process starts, then if the CBA is approved there's weeks of free agency and training camp) i just don't see how games won't be missed. The players gave up some money- the owners should return hat good faith and lift the lockout, or atleast allow free agency to start, as soon as an agreement in principle is reached. Perhaps both sides can agree to follow 2010 fa rules until the agreement is done __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

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