Recent Switches to 3-4 Defense Usually Mean Improvement

freddyg12 · 07-06-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just don't see that happening. If it were college ball then fine. But to put a guy at a position that he's never played before at the NFL level isn't going to work.

I guess your argument could be considered true in the sense that last year he played OLB for the first time & started, yet our 1st round pick this year is a guy that will likely take that spot. But LA has obviously stuck around cause he has adjusted to new positions.

skinsfan69 · 07-06-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

so far w/the exception of the McNabb trade, Allen & MS have shown they value draft picks. Getting 12 this year after starting w/8 was just what the team needed.

I would also like to see fewer free agents, but in Denver Shanny was never opposed to bringing in vets that could help him, even paying big $. Will be the same here, has been so far. I think we'll see greater value but I expect there will still be a no. of signings.

well they also threw away a few more to get Brown coming off an injury. they blew it last year, they got the concept right this year. now let's see if any of these guys can play. they need to hit some home runs with this past draft class.

SmootSmack · 07-06-2011, 11:35 AM

They traded a pick for Brown and a pick. Don't call that throwing away picks for Brown

skinsfan69 · 07-06-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They traded a pick for Brown and a pick. Don't call that throwing away picks for Brown

Wasn't it a 3rd and a 4th for a 29 year old that didn't play a snap in 09 and was coming off two injuries? Either way it was a bad trade cause of Brown's age and the risk factor.

Chico23231 · 07-06-2011, 12:09 PM

if Brown walks after one year, thats a waste. Just like McNabb walking after a year.

NLC1054 · 07-06-2011, 12:11 PM

The alternative was starting either a late round right tackle, or starting Stephen Heyer at right tackle. Yeah, when it comes to trading for Jammal Brown, I'm not going to complain a whole lot, risk factor or not. We needed a right tackle, we got a right tackle, and we couldn't get the guy we wanted (Ryan Harris). JB played hurt most of the season, but he and everyone else knew that he was going to have to play until the scar tissue in his leg broke up a little bit, and when it did, he played much better.

SmootSmack · 07-06-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Wasn't it a 3rd and a 4th for a 29 year old that didn't play a snap in 09 and was coming off two injuries? Either way it was a bad trade cause of Brown's age and the risk factor.

A 3rd OR a 4th for a 5th OR 6th (believe it ended up being Niles Paul) and a two-time Pro Bowler coming off one injury (the first time he'd missed significant playing time in his career)

CultBrennan59 · 07-06-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NLC1054

The alternative was starting either a late round right tackle, or starting Stephen Heyer at right tackle. Yeah, when it comes to trading for Jammal Brown, I'm not going to complain a whole lot, risk factor or not. We needed a right tackle, we got a right tackle, and we couldn't get the guy we wanted (Ryan Harris). JB played hurt most of the season, but he and everyone else knew that he was going to have to play until the scar tissue in his leg broke up a little bit, and when it did, he played much better.

Who would you rather have Brown or Harris. Both are injury prone, both are good when healthy, both can fit our offense. The age and pro bowls are the only difference between the two, however the one without the pro bowls is better suited/familiar more with our offense

Lotus · 07-06-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

A 3rd OR a 4th for a 5th OR 6th (believe it ended up being Niles Paul) and a two-time Pro Bowler coming off one injury (the first time he'd missed significant playing time in his career)

I still think that the Brown trade was a good one. If he doesn't walk, he'll be healed and improved this year and we will have a heck of a tackle tandem.

30gut · 07-06-2011, 01:02 PM

What a coincidence: Study: Haynesworth still a top-three DT July, 6, 2011

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Originally Posted by By Dan Graziano

According to a study by our pals at Pro Football Focus, Albert Haynesworth ranks as the third-best 4-3 defensive tackle in the NFL over the past three years

NFC East Blog - ESPN

NLC1054 · 07-06-2011, 01:13 PM

Then I'd gladly bite my tongue and swallow my pride if he is on any other team except ours and playing at a Pro Bowl level.

07-06-2011, 11:35 AM	#63
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,099	Re: Recent Switches to 3-4 Defense Usually Mean Improvement They traded a pick for Brown and a pick. Don't call that throwing away picks for Brown __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-06-2011, 12:09 PM	#65
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,784	Re: Recent Switches to 3-4 Defense Usually Mean Improvement if Brown walks after one year, thats a waste. Just like McNabb walking after a year. __________________ Ready for the Draft.

07-06-2011, 12:11 PM	#66
NLC1054 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 276	Re: Recent Switches to 3-4 Defense Usually Mean Improvement The alternative was starting either a late round right tackle, or starting Stephen Heyer at right tackle. Yeah, when it comes to trading for Jammal Brown, I'm not going to complain a whole lot, risk factor or not. We needed a right tackle, we got a right tackle, and we couldn't get the guy we wanted (Ryan Harris). JB played hurt most of the season, but he and everyone else knew that he was going to have to play until the scar tissue in his leg broke up a little bit, and when it did, he played much better.

07-06-2011, 01:13 PM	#71
NLC1054 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 276	Re: Recent Switches to 3-4 Defense Usually Mean Improvement Then I'd gladly bite my tongue and swallow my pride if he is on any other team except ours and playing at a Pro Bowl level.

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