The Pre-season and the lockout.

SBXVII · 07-06-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I say a deal gets done between tomorrow and july 13

Dude, you could be a psychic!

If it happens, you need to tell all of us who will be in the SB and who will win. Then I'm placing my bets.

Ruhskins · 07-06-2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Dude, you could be a psychic!

If it happens, you need to tell all of us who will be in the SB and who will win. Then I'm placing my bets.

A team from the NFC and a team from the AFC. LOL.

CultBrennan59 · 07-06-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Dude, you could be a psychic!

If it happens, you need to tell all of us who will be in the SB and who will win. Then I'm placing my bets.

Ok smart ass thats a one week window right there I just gave you. Why don't you tell me then the exact date.

CRedskinsRule · 07-06-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Ok smart ass thats a one week window right there I just gave you. Why don't you tell me then the exact date.

Well you really didn't try to back up your statement, so I don't see why a smart alec reply wouldn't have been expected. Heck, I would imagine there were more that weren't actually posted, but maybe not.

and for the record, I agree with you that now thru the 13th seems like when a deal needs to be done by.

(as for SBXVII's statement, it doesn't take a psychic to know that the Skins will win it all in this lockout year)

musicmaster45 · 07-06-2011, 07:35 PM

Im guessing it will be friday or Sunday. Both make sense for a big anouncement like that

Longtimefan · 07-06-2011, 08:36 PM

The waiting is the hardest part - The League - The Washington Post

Alvin Walton · 07-06-2011, 08:45 PM

Interested to see how the league fines Stainsworth after all the crap he pulled this year.

sportscurmudgeon · 07-06-2011, 10:05 PM

So far no one has lost any money in this mess - - except for the legal fees both sides have incurred for the lawsuits. That may be a lot of money to all of us, but for the NFL and the NFLPA, that is chump-change.

Actually, the owners have saved some money so far by laying off team staff - - not paying them - - and by not incurring the expenses associated with OTAs and mini-camps. Amazingly, the owners as a whole probably are ahead of the game financially as of today.

If the first exhibition game has to be cancelled, then owners lose money AND players lose money because the revenues from exhibition games are part of what they are arguing about in terms of a split. If 2 exhibition games are cancelled, more money is lost.

When revenue is lost, people start to pay a lot more attention to the solution to the problem and not to the problem areas in some kind of theoretical construct.

Someone asked about a date beyond which the regular season will be affected. The regular season will start the week after Labor Day. Teams will need an absolute minimum of 10 days to assemble rosters by signing draftees and free agents and undrafted collegiate free agents. Then they will need at least 2 weeks of "camp" to be ready to put a product on the field that might resemble NFL football. If that is all they get, look for early season games to resemble high school games in terms of execution.

That minimum time comes to 24 days. Count back from the week after Labor Day and you have your "drop-dead date".

My guess remains that a deal is done between 12 and 15 July and that camps will all be in session by 28-30 July and the regular season will start on time.

SmootSmack · 07-06-2011, 10:15 PM

There seems to be some general consensus apparently that missing the HOF game would not be all that devastating, beyond the PR implication. So that July 15 deadline we've been hearing could actually be a few days later.

They are so, so, close to a deal though. Only problem is they've been so close for so long. Let's see if tomorrow and Friday get us past the goal line.

Ruhskins · 07-06-2011, 11:35 PM

I hope Judge Boyle's vacation plans don't derail the talks (he's supposed to go on vacation on Saturday).

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Interested to see how the league fines Stainsworth after all the crap he pulled this year.

Eh who cares (no offense).

rypper11 · 07-07-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

So far no one has lost any money in this mess - - except for the legal fees both sides have incurred for the lawsuits. That may be a lot of money to all of us, but for the NFL and the NFLPA, that is chump-change.

A lot of players have lost workout bonuses so far.

mbedner3420 · 07-07-2011, 08:36 PM

Any word on how the negotiations are going, Smoots? I'm hoping to get this thing resolved by the weekend.

Hog1 · 07-07-2011, 08:53 PM

You will have to try:
Red Rover, Red Rover, Send SmootSmack On Over...........

SmootSmack · 07-07-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Any word on how the negotiations are going, Smoots? I'm hoping to get this thing resolved by the weekend.

Looks like they're settling down for a long night of talks tonight.

Longtimefan · 07-07-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, without preseason games the hot dog vendor doesn't get paid, the ushers don't get paid, the custodians don't get paid...so they're looking out for everyone

YouTube - ‪The NFL Lockout: The Biggest Losers Are the Little Guys, Not Players, Owners‬&rlm;

07-06-2011, 07:35 PM	#20
musicmaster45 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 373	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. Im guessing it will be friday or Sunday. Both make sense for a big anouncement like that __________________ Shanahann loves the colleges i do...... Purdue and Nebraska FTW!!!!

07-06-2011, 08:36 PM	#21
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. The waiting is the hardest part - The League - The Washington Post __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

07-06-2011, 08:45 PM	#22
Alvin Walton Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 3,847	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. Interested to see how the league fines Stainsworth after all the crap he pulled this year. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968 CHARTER MEMEBER OF THE DALLAS SWEEPERS CLUB

07-06-2011, 10:05 PM	#23
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. So far no one has lost any money in this mess - - except for the legal fees both sides have incurred for the lawsuits. That may be a lot of money to all of us, but for the NFL and the NFLPA, that is chump-change. Actually, the owners have saved some money so far by laying off team staff - - not paying them - - and by not incurring the expenses associated with OTAs and mini-camps. Amazingly, the owners as a whole probably are ahead of the game financially as of today. If the first exhibition game has to be cancelled, then owners lose money AND players lose money because the revenues from exhibition games are part of what they are arguing about in terms of a split. If 2 exhibition games are cancelled, more money is lost. When revenue is lost, people start to pay a lot more attention to the solution to the problem and not to the problem areas in some kind of theoretical construct. Someone asked about a date beyond which the regular season will be affected. The regular season will start the week after Labor Day. Teams will need an absolute minimum of 10 days to assemble rosters by signing draftees and free agents and undrafted collegiate free agents. Then they will need at least 2 weeks of "camp" to be ready to put a product on the field that might resemble NFL football. If that is all they get, look for early season games to resemble high school games in terms of execution. That minimum time comes to 24 days. Count back from the week after Labor Day and you have your "drop-dead date". My guess remains that a deal is done between 12 and 15 July and that camps will all be in session by 28-30 July and the regular season will start on time. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports... Last edited by sportscurmudgeon; 07-06-2011 at 10:07 PM. Reason: Correct spelling errors

07-06-2011, 10:15 PM	#24
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,096	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. There seems to be some general consensus apparently that missing the HOF game would not be all that devastating, beyond the PR implication. So that July 15 deadline we've been hearing could actually be a few days later. They are so, so, close to a deal though. Only problem is they've been so close for so long. Let's see if tomorrow and Friday get us past the goal line. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-07-2011, 08:36 PM	#27
mbedner3420 The Starter Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,545	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. Any word on how the negotiations are going, Smoots? I'm hoping to get this thing resolved by the weekend.

07-07-2011, 08:53 PM	#28
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,372	Re: The Pre-season and the lockout. You will have to try: Red Rover, Red Rover, Send SmootSmack On Over........... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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