Only In Dallas, Williams Gets Rejected Again

Monkeydad · 07-07-2011, 09:38 AM

This story made my day.

Ruhskins · 07-07-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

You're spot on there. Heck Dan Snyder would NEVER trade draft picks for aging veterans and then over pay them.

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Agreed, but the Roy Williams trade was basically the Herschel Walker Trade II.

Funny tweet from Ross Tucker:

"Caller 'Andrew from DC' on Roy Williams "RingGate": 1) He mails it in every Sunday 2) If she gave ring back he'd drop it."

freddyg12 · 07-07-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I never said he's not guilty of that, just that in the case of Williams vs Haynesworth, Jerrah is the winner for the bigger disaster. Congrats.

I don't think so, Williams had a decent year last year & is pretty good. Yeah, they gave up too much for him but he actually was somewhat of a leader on that team it seemed, one of the few stand up guys they have. AH didn't cost picks but Danny has paid him a ton of $ for little return & he's become a team problem.

Mattyk · 07-07-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I don't think so, Williams had a decent year last year & is pretty good. Yeah, they gave up too much for him but he actually was somewhat of a leader on that team it seemed, one of the few stand up guys they have. AH didn't cost picks but Danny has paid him a ton of $ for little return & he's become a team problem.

Do you really think they got bang for their buck for him?

They gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round picks, and gave him $26M guranteed. Now let's look at his production:

2008: 19-198-1
2009: 38-596-7
2010: 37-530-5

I'm sorry, but for the picks alone they got majorily boned on that deal. At least with Haynesworth all we did was give up $$.

He's pretty good? Decent year? Come on.

Ruhskins · 07-07-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I don't think so, Williams had a decent year last year & is pretty good. Yeah, they gave up too much for him but he actually was somewhat of a leader on that team it seemed, one of the few stand up guys they have. AH didn't cost picks but Danny has paid him a ton of $ for little return & he's become a team problem.

It's just money, Danny's money. The only similar situation that we have had recently has been the McNabb trade, but even then we didn't give up a first rounder. At the end of the day, I consider the McNabb trade a bigger disaster for the Redskins than Haynesworth. I think it is pretty big for a rebuilding team to lose their 2nd round pick for a QB that didn't even finish out the season.

Hog1 · 07-07-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Do you really think they got bang for their buck for him?

They gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round picks, and gave him $26M guranteed. Now let's look at his production:

2008: 19-198-1
2009: 38-596-7
2010: 37-530-5

I'm sorry, but for the picks alone they got majorily boned on that deal. At least with Haynesworth all we did was give up $$.

He's pretty good? Decent year? Come on.

Actually, I think I personally had better 2008/09 seasons.....
where did I put Jerrah's #?

Mattyk · 07-07-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It's just money, Danny's money. The only similar situation that we have had recently has been the McNabb trade, but even then we didn't give up a first rounder. At the end of the day, I consider the McNabb trade a bigger disaster for the Redskins than Haynesworth. I think it is pretty big for a rebuilding team to lose their 2nd round pick for a QB that didn't even finish out the season.

Yeah but let's remember we recouped a lot of picks back in the draft.

So where in the past we just gave away picks like candy, at least now we wheel and deal and get picks in return to ease the damage a bit.

Ruhskins · 07-07-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah but let's remember we recouped a lot of picks back in the draft.

So where in the past we just gave away picks like candy, at least now we wheel and deal and get picks in return to ease the damage a bit.

We recouped draft picks this year, but if I remember correctly the second rounder we lost for McNabb was from the 2010 draft.

Chico23231 · 07-07-2011, 12:04 PM

I dont care the about the picks and things....bottomline Dez Bryant and Roy Williams are flat out clowns. These dumbasses and their jewlery issues are an embarrassment to themselves and the entire cowgurls organization.

freddyg12 · 07-07-2011, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Do you really think they got bang for their buck for him?

They gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round picks, and gave him $26M guranteed. Now let's look at his production:

2008: 19-198-1
2009: 38-596-7
2010: 37-530-5

I'm sorry, but for the picks alone they got majorily boned on that deal. At least with Haynesworth all we did was give up $$.

He's pretty good? Decent year? Come on.

They gave up a lot, I mentioned that, honestly didn't remember that he got that much $, that's way too much. Now that I look at RW's bonus $ I see your point.

But I do stand by saying he had a decent year in 2010. They have to spread the ball around to Austin, Bryant & Witten, plus they had good rbs. No, his #s aren't on par w/what they gave up, but he came around & played alright after a poor start his first year in dallas.

Haynesworth played well in 09 when he was in games, but that's likely all we got out of him. Maybe he was needed as a symbol of how things were changing & in the future we'll see that Shanny used it to his advantage. I hope so, otherwise there's nothing much good we can expect from AH.

Ruhskins · 07-07-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

They gave up a lot, I mentioned that, honestly didn't remember that he got that much $, that's way too much. Now that I look at RW's bonus $ I see your point.

But I do stand by saying he had a decent year in 2010. They have to spread the ball around to Austin, Bryant & Witten, plus they had good rbs. No, his #s aren't on par w/what they gave up, but he came around & played alright after a poor start his first year in dallas.

Haynesworth played well in 09 when he was in games, but that's likely all we got out of him. Maybe he was needed as a symbol of how things were changing & in the future we'll see that Shanny used it to his advantage. I hope so, otherwise there's nothing much good we can expect from AH.

It's funny that he played "decently" the year after Dallas spent a first-rounder to get Dez Bryant (who pretty much was drafted b/c RW tanked).

Lotus · 07-07-2011, 12:35 PM

I hope he gets the ring back. It's the only way that a Cowboy could get a ring.

sandtrapjack · 07-07-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Agreed, but the Roy Williams trade was basically the Herschel Walker Trade II.

Funny tweet from Ross Tucker:

"Caller 'Andrew from DC' on Roy Williams "RingGate": 1) He mails it in every Sunday 2) If she gave ring back he'd drop it."

The Walker trade was the one that landed Dallas all those draft picks that Jimmy Johnson parlayed into 3 Super Bowls.

I believe you may be referring to the Joey Galloway trade, which is only a notch above this one with respect to all-time-bone-headed-trades.

skinsfaninok · 07-07-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I hope he gets the ring back. It's the only way that a Cowboy could get a ring.

I hate em but they do have 5 unfortunately

Ruhskins · 07-07-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The Walker trade was the one that landed Dallas all those draft picks that Jimmy Johnson parlayed into 3 Super Bowls.

I believe you may be referring to the Joey Galloway trade, which is only a notch above this one with respect to all-time-bone-headed-trades.

You know what, I had forgotten the Galloway trade.

07-07-2011, 09:38 AM	#16
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 33 Posts: 14,884	Re: Only In Dallas, Williams Gets Rejected Again This story made my day. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

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Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,774	Re: Only In Dallas, Williams Gets Rejected Again I dont care the about the picks and things....bottomline Dez Bryant and Roy Williams are flat out clowns. These dumbasses and their jewlery issues are an embarrassment to themselves and the entire cowgurls organization. __________________ Ready for the Draft.

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Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Only In Dallas, Williams Gets Rejected Again I hope he gets the ring back. It's the only way that a Cowboy could get a ring. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

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