2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread

Dirtbag59 · 07-25-2011, 09:24 PM

Slightly OT but I didn't want to start a new thread on the topic. Does anyone feel like Kurt Warner is a little biased against any and all QB's? I don't know why but I feel like he's ultra critical of anyone that isn't an UDFA fighting for their very life.

Like one second he was talking about how Cam Newton needed to learn how to work hard and be dedicated to learn the playbook, then after Florio said there were reports of Newton working with Weinke for 12 hours a day Warner started talking about working smart.

Maybe I'm overanalyzing but for some reason I don't like Kurt Warner the analyst.

SBXVII · 07-25-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Rex played well last year so what's the deal? Just hating to hate? Who'd you rather have? McNabb? Jason Campbell?

Funny, I'd almost wager he'd prefer Vince Young over Grossman. lol. I just wish people would take a closer look and realize Grossman knows the system better then anyone we had last year and actually I think someone pointed out that he was able to get the ball in the endzone... finish the drives. No matter who we bring in they will be in the same boat as McNabb was last year, basically a QB brought in who does not know all the plays or scheme well enough to be very effective.

But lets bring in anyone else except Grossman. Yeah, Young is such an upgrade over Grossman. Atleast Grossman has better character and doesn't throw temper tantrums.

SBXVII · 07-25-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Slightly OT but I didn't want to start a new thread on the topic. Does anyone feel like Kurt Warner is a little biased against any and all QB's? I don't know why but I feel like he's ultra critical of anyone that isn't an UDFA fighting for their very life.

Like one second he was talking about how Cam Newton needed to learn how to work hard and be dedicated to learn the playbook, then after Florio said there were reports of Newton working with Weinke for 12 hours a day Warner started talking about working smart.

Maybe I'm overanalyzing but for some reason I don't like Kurt Warner the analyst.

No your probably correct. All he's doing is spitting what almost every other media pundit pushed down our throats.... that Newton was not a very hard worker. He could have probably answered a lot better then he did. In other words instead of working out with some hack teaching him to throw better or take a better drop back he could have been studying the plays and working with his WR's. But like you said I'm guessing no matter what was said he would still have said Newton needs to work harder and smarter.

Maybe he just feels like the UDFA's need to work extra hard to prove their worth and the drafted QB's don't work as hard because they already know they have a job. I don't know, he's an idiot.

Dirtbag59 · 07-25-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

No your probably correct. All he's doing is spitting what almost every other media pundit pushed down our throats.... that Newton was not a very hard worker. He could have probably answered a lot better then he did. In other words instead of working out with some hack teaching him to throw better or take a better drop back he could have been studying the plays and working with his WR's. But like you said I'm guessing no matter what was said he would still have said Newton needs to work harder and smarter.

Maybe he just feels like the UDFA's need to work extra hard to prove their worth and the drafted QB's don't work as hard because they already know they have a job. I don't know, he's an idiot.

Actually I was about to take back my initial assumptions about Warner being against every QB that was a first round pick as he just threw in a vote of confidence for Jay Cutler. So it's not that he's against first round picks he's just a raging racist

Though the more likely explanation is he can't say anything bad about a QB working under his boy Mike Martz.

That Guy · 07-26-2011, 02:28 AM

you know, orton would be a good signing here... but i don't think that's going to happen.

I think we resign rex, moss and brown, we make a play for another WR (though the most likely guys we could get without throwing a billionty dollars would be Br Edwards or Pl Burress).

I think jenkins is pretty likely, then we need an OT/OG type, a starting CB, and a good LB and DL guy, though both could be more mid level. I'd love tulloch or similar at LB, and at CB rogers is probably the most efficient buy, though again, I think the skins are letting him walk... which means we need to get somebody, cromartie, ike or JJ being the most likely.
For OL, i'd love doug free, just to steal him from dallas (not that he wouldn't help us out). D Joseph would be great too, but not likely.

can't wait. hopefully we dont massively overpay the wrong guys again. (btw, most of the WRs are thrash character wise, which is sad. I still think edwards or plax (if he's ready to go) could help us the most, but i realize the off field red flags are, you know, huge).

SBXVII · 07-26-2011, 08:18 AM

OK, on my ProFootball Weekly app...

Baltimore has told a few top Vets their services won't be needed this year.

RB Willis McGahee
NT Kelly Gregg
TE Todd Heap
WR Derrick Mason

I'd be interested in the NT and maybe the WR.

GridIron26 · 07-26-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

OK, on my ProFootball Weekly app...

Baltimore has told a few top Vets their services won't be needed this year.

RB Willis McGahee
NT Kelly Gregg
TE Todd Heap
WR Derrick Mason

I'd be interested in the NT and maybe the WR.

I was surprised when I read this news, since Ravens convinced Mason to continue playing after considering retirement (two years ago I believe). I don't want anyone except for Gregg, he might fill in NT nicely for us.

Mattyk · 07-26-2011, 08:33 AM

Those Ravens moves look like cap cuts more than anything. I'd bet a few of those guys end up back with them at a lower price tag.

SBXVII · 07-26-2011, 08:34 AM

I agree unless they get a really good offer elsewhere.

NC_Skins · 07-26-2011, 09:35 AM

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let me get this started..not saying it will happen.. but the Redskins are going 2 check on Orton , 2 wee what it will take

Well, apparently the Skins are looking into Orton after all.

A tweet from another insider on another forum this morning.

Monkeydad · 07-26-2011, 09:40 AM

Dolphins rumored to be making a trade offer for Orton.

Miami Dolphins: Will Dolphins land QB Kyle Orton? - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

Although I do not believe we need any WRs (unless we can get Rice), Malcolm Floyd is now not re-signing with SD since Vincent Jackson is going to sign his 1 year, $11+ million contract.

Mattyk · 07-26-2011, 09:42 AM

Denver is looking to unload Orton quickly. Doesn't hurt to see what they would be willing to take.

SBXVII · 07-26-2011, 09:43 AM

Seahawks released OL Stacy Andrews.

"Mark Herzlich to decide on team soon after 10am. Ravens, Giants, Eagles among the contenders"

Twitter

SBXVII · 07-26-2011, 09:44 AM

I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff.

Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter

Edit: this was BS... sorry.
Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco

skinsfaninok · 07-26-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff.

Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter

Edit: this was BS... sorry.
Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco

LMAO Yeah even the bengals aren't that dumb

07-25-2011, 09:24 PM	#196
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,978	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread Slightly OT but I didn't want to start a new thread on the topic. Does anyone feel like Kurt Warner is a little biased against any and all QB's? I don't know why but I feel like he's ultra critical of anyone that isn't an UDFA fighting for their very life. Like one second he was talking about how Cam Newton needed to learn how to work hard and be dedicated to learn the playbook, then after Florio said there were reports of Newton working with Weinke for 12 hours a day Warner started talking about working smart. Maybe I'm overanalyzing but for some reason I don't like Kurt Warner the analyst. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

07-26-2011, 02:28 AM	#200
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,642	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread you know, orton would be a good signing here... but i don't think that's going to happen. I think we resign rex, moss and brown, we make a play for another WR (though the most likely guys we could get without throwing a billionty dollars would be Br Edwards or Pl Burress). I think jenkins is pretty likely, then we need an OT/OG type, a starting CB, and a good LB and DL guy, though both could be more mid level. I'd love tulloch or similar at LB, and at CB rogers is probably the most efficient buy, though again, I think the skins are letting him walk... which means we need to get somebody, cromartie, ike or JJ being the most likely. For OL, i'd love doug free, just to steal him from dallas (not that he wouldn't help us out). D Joseph would be great too, but not likely. can't wait. hopefully we dont massively overpay the wrong guys again. (btw, most of the WRs are thrash character wise, which is sad. I still think edwards or plax (if he's ready to go) could help us the most, but i realize the off field red flags are, you know, huge). __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

07-26-2011, 08:18 AM	#201
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread OK, on my ProFootball Weekly app... Baltimore has told a few top Vets their services won't be needed this year. RB Willis McGahee NT Kelly Gregg TE Todd Heap WR Derrick Mason I'd be interested in the NT and maybe the WR.

07-26-2011, 08:33 AM	#203
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread Those Ravens moves look like cap cuts more than anything. I'd bet a few of those guys end up back with them at a lower price tag. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-26-2011, 08:34 AM	#204
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread I agree unless they get a really good offer elsewhere.

07-26-2011, 09:40 AM	#206
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,885	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread Dolphins rumored to be making a trade offer for Orton. Miami Dolphins: Will Dolphins land QB Kyle Orton? - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com Although I do not believe we need any WRs (unless we can get Rice), Malcolm Floyd is now not re-signing with SD since Vincent Jackson is going to sign his 1 year, $11+ million contract. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

07-26-2011, 09:42 AM	#207
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread Denver is looking to unload Orton quickly. Doesn't hurt to see what they would be willing to take. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-26-2011, 09:43 AM	#208
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread Seahawks released OL Stacy Andrews. "Mark Herzlich to decide on team soon after 10am. Ravens, Giants, Eagles among the contenders" Twitter

07-26-2011, 09:44 AM	#209
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff. Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter Edit: this was BS... sorry. Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco

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