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Old 07-26-2011, 10:55 AM   #31
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Re: One man's view of Santonio Holmes and the Skins

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we had a good passing offense last year, we dont really NEED a WR (if we sign moss), but having a 4th option (after moss AA cooley) would be great if it's cheap, and we can afford a cheap deal that doesn't work out, hence mentioning plax or the like.

save cash for CB/DL/OL.

Yes but now we will have John Beck so we need all the help we can get
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:02 AM   #32
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Smoot knows what's up. A tweet from another insider below.
For all I know we're hearing stuff from the same source. I'll say this, the new Redskins have been excellent at smoke screens and misdirections
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:08 AM   #33
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For all I know we're hearing stuff from the same source. I'll say this, the new Redskins have been excellent at smoke screens and misdirections
FUnny you mention that because seems like they've done a 180 according to that same insider. Back to Holmes.


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All night I heard about Rice.. this morning in contact with Holmes.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:12 AM   #34
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Someone here at work just told me Holmes too. But someone else here told me Braylon...and I know they're not signing both

If it's Holmes I gotta give props then to JLC for being the first (and for a long time only) one to call it
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:18 AM   #35
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I keep hearing Santonio from basically one source repeated several times, but I hear Rice and Jones from several sources. Not sure which if any are going to happen.
Do any of these sources think we'd also resign moss?
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Do any of these sources think we'd also resign moss?
Look at the FA Rumors and Reports thread
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:22 AM   #37
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Santana turned 32 a month ago. I'm not saying we give him some huge 3 year deal, but a reasonable 3 year contract with some backloaded money is most likely what Santana will get on the open market. Just my speculation.

Signing a guy in Moss who just turned 32 a month ago who's coming off an 1100+ yard 93 catch season (in a bad offense with no consistent QB play) to a 3 year deal certainly isn't "nuttery." The numbers just have to be right. He's no long-term answer, but it's more reasonable than inking a significantly larger deal for a WR in Holmes who really won't be any better than Moss with our QB situation over the next 2 or so seasons and will bring significant character issues to boot.
As if a player's performance when his body is "fresher" makes him immune to the depreciation of his body afterwards.

Moss's stats were precisely inflated because he was one of the few "good" offensive players at the offense's disposal, and thus became the default target. But Moss's game is based on his speed, and that fading away fast. Thus, his days as the de facto #1 are nearly gone.

A 3-year deal for him would have to be like Larry Johnson's: one that is easy to cut him should he not prove effective anymore. It doesn't matter if we sign Holmes or not. Any long-term deal for Moss needs to realistically weigh how much he can contribute to WINS in the future. Usually unless the WR is headed for the HOF, WRs hit their wall at around 33 or 34.

Quite frankly, I'd pass on both. We have little need for short-term(Moss) or mid-term(Holmes) players. We need to focus on getting long-term or "eternal-term" players
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:52 AM   #38
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I really do not want a high priced FA WR. I like the WR's we have drafted and picked up. They are adequate and cheap.
Our issues on offense were O-line and QB related. Lack of pass protection and running game and a QB that can produce consistently on his own.
The only positions I would like our team to consider a high priced FA is at NT, OG, OT or QB. I would also consider one to replace Carlos Rogers, if we lose him to another team. But getting a high profile WR is going right back to the Ceratto (i have never seen a WR I did not want to get) days.
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:16 AM   #39
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Santana NEEDs somebody else. Passing was our strength... yea so what.. we still need to get better than mediocre like they said. Strength or not it was mediocre.

We could have used another playmaker last year. And were gonna need one this year down the stretch. What if Santana gets hurt? Whoever wrote that article isnt a fan of ours the slightest.
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Holmes just made agreement with jets according to schefter on twitter
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Re: One man's view of Santonio Holmes and the Skins

just updating all the WR threads:
no Holmes to Skins:

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Filed to ESPN: WR Santonio Holmes reaches agreement with Jets on a five year deal.
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oh well
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When are we going to lock this thread.
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Watching JLC confirm this on NFLN. If you look at his dry-erase board in the background, you can see that Jackson (Vincent?) is at the top of the list for the Skins. I couldn't make out the 2/3 other names.
VJ is at the top of the WR list, not the Skins
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Re: One man's view of Santonio Holmes and the Skins

I guess we can lock this one up:

Santonio Holmes will return to the Jets on a five-year deal | ProFootballTalk
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