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Old 08-20-2011, 12:51 AM   #451
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Re: How far can Beck take us?

I believe that him not starting a game in 3 years can no longer be used against him.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:56 AM   #452
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All Shanny is going to ask from either Beck or Grossman is to manage the offense, not win the game. I am SOOO excited about the improved running game. The 1st team line opened holes against 2 good defenses, and both Hightower and Helu look like the real deal.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:57 AM   #453
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Not saying it's eat crow time... but for some it's at least time to take a good whiff of what John Beck is cookin'. You know who you are.

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He looked solid, and his postgame presser showed how intelligent he is. He certainly says all the right things and comes off very polished and confident. And I still am not sold at all. It's one half of preseason football against a team that has consistently shown that they don't give a rat's ass about the preseason.

Let's see how Thursday night goes under the lights in Baltimore against the Raven's D in the all important 3rd preseason game.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:05 AM   #454
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All Shanny is going to ask from either Beck or Grossman is to manage the offense, not win the game. I am SOOO excited about the improved running game. The 1st team line opened holes against 2 good defenses, and both Hightower and Helu look like the real deal.
Keep in mind these defenses having been playing very very conservative and have not been using close to 30% of their defensive plays (coverages, and blitzes). Also keep in mind that Pittsburgh was without arguably their 2 best players James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. And when we scored against them it was against half 1st teamers, half 2nd teamers.
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Keep in mind these defenses having been playing very very conservative and have not been using close to 30% of their defensive plays (coverages, and blitzes). Also keep in mind that Pittsburgh was without arguably their 2 best players James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. And when we scored against them it was against half 1st teamers, half 2nd teamers.
Good point about opposing defenses. Also with Beck, opposing teams have no film on him. So he's a pretty much an unknown in that regard.
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Keep in mind these defenses having been playing very very conservative and have not been using close to 30% of their defensive plays (coverages, and blitzes). Also keep in mind that Pittsburgh was without arguably their 2 best players James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. And when we scored against them it was against half 1st teamers, half 2nd teamers.
James Harrison did play against us in the first game and the Colts had most of their starters on defense (I think they only were missing Tommie Harris).

The way I see it is that we did a pretty good job in the first and second series in the past two games against most of the starters from the opposing team. In previous preseason games when this happened, we looked like crap and committed the same mistakes that we would see during the regular season.

It is good to see do a good job in the past two games, it is better than having them come out versus the first-teamers and completely screw up. I don't think this screams championship or anything like that, but it is good to see progress.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:58 AM   #457
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I like what i see out of both Beck and Grossman, both capable, not great, but I will take either one over Donovan McNabb. As far as I'm concerned we have improved at every position on this football team over the offseason, INCLUDING quarterback! Not saying either one is our franchise QB but I do like our team going into this season and the future beyond.
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:29 AM   #458
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Not saying it's eat crow time... but for some it's at least time to take a good whiff of what John Beck is cookin'. You know who you are.

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I will say the guy played very very well. He was in total control out there. I loved the way the ball came out quickly and he was dead on with his passes. But as you said, I'm not eating crow yet. Everyone knows Indy lays down like dogs in the pre season. As a matter of fact, pre season is one big joke. If Beck is named the starter then I want to see it against Jason Tuck and co. It's one pre season game. If pre season counted Babe Laufenburg would be in the Hall of Fame.
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:32 AM   #459
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Keep in mind these defenses having been playing very very conservative and have not been using close to 30% of their defensive plays (coverages, and blitzes). Also keep in mind that Pittsburgh was without arguably their 2 best players James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. And when we scored against them it was against half 1st teamers, half 2nd teamers.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:51 AM   #460
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Quarterbeck? *Swish!*
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Keep in mind these defenses having been playing very very conservative and have not been using close to 30% of their defensive plays (coverages, and blitzes). Also keep in mind that Pittsburgh was without arguably their 2 best players James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. And when we scored against them it was against half 1st teamers, half 2nd teamers.
Keep in mind that opposing teams are receiving the same from us.....
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:12 AM   #462
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The impression I got from last night is that Mike and Kyle don't plan on Beck taking us anywhere. Wherever we go, we're taking Beck with us through smart playcalling, consistent execution, and a strong running game.

Question to me right now really seems to be how far can Kyle and Hightower take us.

Now that's not to take anything away from Beck, who I'm still not sure is our opening day starter over Grossman. Beck did nothing last night to make me truly doubt him. But I'm totally a beckliever? Not yet. I didn't really see him get challenged too much (granted it's a preseason game against the Colts) and while he had nice stats I didn't see what he did that really stood out from what Rex did the week before.

I guess at the end of the day, I didn't walk away from last night's game excitedly thinking this is definitely the guy for us. At the same time, I didn't leave it worried he might be either.
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^ agreed
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:42 AM   #464
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Keep in mind that opposing teams are receiving the same from us.....
I can dig it... Just hope it carries over into the season. I live in NY so when we loose to the Glee-men, they really put me through it up here.
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The impression I got from last night is that Mike and Kyle don't plan on Beck taking us anywhere. Wherever we go, we're taking Beck with us through smart playcalling, consistent execution, and a strong running game.

Question to me right now really seems to be how far can Kyle and Hightower take us.

Now that's not to take anything away from Beck, who I'm still not sure is our opening day starter over Grossman. Beck did nothing last night to make me truly doubt him. But I'm totally a beckliever? Not yet. I didn't really see him get challenged too much (granted it's a preseason game against the Colts) and while he had nice stats I didn't see what he did that really stood out from what Rex did the week before.

I guess at the end of the day, I didn't walk away from last night's game excitedly thinking this is definitely the guy for us. At the same time, I didn't leave it worried he might be either.
He really didn't do anything that stood out. Fortunately for him an uncompromising adherence to a simple game plan made managing the game easier for him executing short passes mixed with a strong running game. There's much more I want to see from Beck, especially the ability to get the ball downfield and demonstrating he has to ability to bring a team from behind.
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