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Old 08-16-2011, 09:25 PM   #766
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Id like to see Austin or Paul returning ko and punts.
Personally, I don't like the new rule governing KO's. The rule change is going to be devastating for teams with good return men. I understand the league's purpose for the change, but for teams like us with a good return man the rule change is a downer.

Belichick says NFL wants to eliminate kickoffs; NFL disagrees - The Early Lead - The Washington Post
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:01 PM   #767
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Personally, I don't like the new rule governing KO's. The rule change is going to be devastating for teams with good return men. I understand the league's purpose for the change, but for teams like us with a good return man the rule change is a downer.

Belichick says NFL wants to eliminate kickoffs; NFL disagrees - The Early Lead - The Washington Post
And offenses which can sustain drives are more at a premium than ever. The 80 yard drive is now king.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:25 AM   #768
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The thing I don't like about Beck getting his shot against the Colts is the fact that the Colts are notroriously bad in preseason play (Colt Brenan anyone?). Grossman's performance at least in the scope of these first two games should probably be weighted much heavier. Then again we have a whole preseason to determine who should start the season.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:44 AM   #769
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And offenses which can sustain drives are more at a premium than ever. The 80 yard drive is now king.
You're right!...and while it's not my intention to h/j this thread with this particular comment, I feel the new rule strips the game of one of it's most exciting elements, the KO return. This topic itself should be thread worthy.
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The thing I don't like about Beck getting his shot against the Colts is the fact that the Colts are notroriously bad in preseason play (Colt Brenan anyone?). Grossman's performance at least in the scope of these first two games should probably be weighted much heavier. Then again we have a whole preseason to determine who should start the season.
Well, he has to play at some point.

Not sure you can weigh the first game more than the 2nd just based on the fact starters' playing time typically increases going from games 1-3. So Beck should see more time against the Colts' starters vs Rex seeing only 2 series from the Steelers starters.
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You're right!...and while it's not my intention to h/j this thread with this particular comment, I feel the new rule strips the game of one of it's most exciting elements, the KO return. This topic itself should be thread worthy.
KO line was the 35 prior to 94 when they moved it to 30 to try to increase scoring.

Ever think about how arbitrary these lines are? Why is a touchback to the 20? What if field position started at the goal line, e.g. kickoffs were from there?
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:35 PM   #772
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Not so arbitrary.

- Average kickoff return in NFL: 22 yards
- Average kickoff started at 6.5 yard line last season link

Now move it back 5 yards this season. Means little less than 50% of kicks will be in endzone. The returner will on average get to the 20 yard line. If the touchback was the 15 yard line, I'd say go for it EVERY time - you'd get more yards. If it was the 25 or 30 yard line, I'd say kneel it EVERY time.

Since it's at the 20, it's just right -> gives the returner a decision to make.
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KO line was the 35 prior to 94 when they moved it to 30 to try to increase scoring.
I've been thinking about this kickoff thing too...thinking it sucks for us since we have Banks....but lets look at this realistically and historically....there were no issues prior to 94...its just that now the average kicker has superior distance vs back then.

I really think it is a break even for the skins because we have a great kick returner and a kicker that can force touchbacks the majority of the time...if you get rid our our kicker...well...thats a different story.
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OJ Atogwe's been having a good camp, but is rehabbing a hammy right now, but I heard that he's dating Mike Singletary's daughter. Looked her up, and she isn't that bad looking

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Per Rich Campbell: Ryan Torain (broken left hand) is now cleared to take handoffs in RB drills, a team official said. Limited contact on his hand for now, tho
Good to see Torain can now begin working his way back. The NFL has now become a multi-back league and has been for some time. It doesn't matter much who starts between Torain and Hightower, both, if healthy, will get plenty of playing time. I'm glad we have two RBs who both gained over 725 yards last year. Maybe they could do the same as a combo this year.
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Good to see Torain can now begin working his way back. The NFL has now become a multi-back league and has been for some time. It doesn't matter much who starts between Torain and Hightower, both, if healthy, will get plenty of playing time. I'm glad we have two RBs who both gained over 725 yards last year. Maybe they could do the same as a combo this year.
Who's this Torain fellow is he any good? Why do we need him, we already have 3 good backs.
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OJ Atogwe's been having a good camp, but is rehabbing a hammy right now, but I heard that he's dating Mike Singletary's daughter. Looked her up, and she isn't that bad looking

They got married this spring. That's why he missed some of the player led workouts.
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It's kind of comical how little the sports world thinks of the Redskins -- we finished with the same record as the Cowboys last season and beat the eventual champs (packers) but for some reason we are 100/1 favorites to win the SB but the cowturds are 18/1. God I hope we surprise some people this year.
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Josh Wilson will not be playing Friday night (washingtonpost.com)
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OJ Atogwe's been having a good camp, but is rehabbing a hammy right now, but I heard that he's dating Mike Singletary's daughter. Looked her up, and she isn't that bad looking

I can't date a woman who is that blurry. I prefer my women to be in focus.
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