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Old 08-01-2011, 10:24 PM   #211
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Consider that the Cardinals placed a 2nd round tender on him back in March and we got him for a conditional late round pick and Holliday? That's not too bad at all
Actually as far as RFA's go thats actually pretty cheap. IIRC the difference in money for an NFL team between the 1st/3rd and 2nd round tender is minimal. Then again maybe thats just the elder Bidwell trying to be cheap.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:25 PM   #212
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Curmudgeon...is that you?
Yes, it is I.

And Terry Allen, Stephen Davis and Earnest Byner were good RBs - - albeit Allen and Byner were here for only part of their prime years - - but Hightower had the potential to be better than any of them if he gets any blocking. I had no intention of insinuating that any of those guys were stiffs or stumblebums; they were not. Neither was Clinton Portis until the injuries caught up with him.

I think Hightower has the potential to be better than all of them...
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:36 AM   #213
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You're not the neighborhood idiot. You're something, but not the neighborhood idiot.

But you still have really yet to illustrate a point here. Is it simply that scoring a lot of TD's doesn't necessarily mean you're a good back? If so, then fine, but LenDale White in that case really hurts your argument actually. He was truly one dimensional. A big load that couldn't really catch, wasn't fast, didn't have great vision, and his blocking was ho-hum. You can't really use him as an argument against Tim Hightower as far as predictors for success. LenDale White wishes he had the multiple skill-sets of Hightower.

No one here (except for sportscurmudgeon) is saying the guy is going to be a superstar, but he's done enough to prove he's no LenDale White, and he's arguably better than anyone else on our roster at the position.
Yep, you got it. A poor man's Chester Taylor(who has not reached his ceiling yet, however high it is) is how I'm seeing Hightower at the moment. He can block and catch, and we need a RB with such skills. I'm not complaining about the cost either; I praised the FO in that regard. But, there's still some reason for me to be a little wary of Hightower.

He runs hard, but I also do not see too much of a "bruiser" in him for short yardage either. I like his ability to break big ones more than his "power running".

Also, looking at his individual game logs(didn't check until this post), Hightower seems to either hot or cold in his performances. 63%(465 yds out of his 736 total yards) of his 2010 rushing yardage total is from three games: Atlanta, Seattle, Denver, Kansas City, and St. Louis. By this, I would infer that he certainly can tear up the trash, but he(or perhaps the Cards O) normally struggles against tougher competition.
I hope he becomes more consistent against better teams as a Skin and that he is in a better situation here, but we'll see.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:05 AM   #214
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Yes, it is I.

And Terry Allen, Stephen Davis and Earnest Byner were good RBs - - albeit Allen and Byner were here for only part of their prime years - - but Hightower had the potential to be better than any of them if he gets any blocking. I had no intention of insinuating that any of those guys were stiffs or stumblebums; they were not. Neither was Clinton Portis until the injuries caught up with him.

I think Hightower has the potential to be better than all of them...
Wow, Terry Allen. That brings me back a bit. It's always funny to think about all the guys we've all but forgotten. Some of them are relatively recent guys from the Gibbs era like Marcus Washington, Lamar Marshall, Joe Salvae, and Ryan Boschetti. Then theres random guys from the Spurrier/Turner/Marty era like David Schotz, Sam Shade, Marco Coleman, Corey Raymer, Chris Doering, Kevin Locket, Walter Rasby, Ifeanyi Ohalete.

Funny how easily some guys just slip our minds.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:57 AM   #215
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Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.

Not sure about this one. Hightower want see carries until Torain and the Rookies fall flat on there face or get injured. Hopefully that doesnt happen because our oline is as bad as Arizona's was last year !!
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:11 AM   #216
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What exactly makes our O-line so bad?
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:21 AM   #217
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What exactly makes our O-line so bad?
First we have 3 nobody bodies in the interior !!

Secondly we have 2 of the softest tackles in the League !!

Trent Williams is a bust out of the gate and Should not be playing Left tackle.

He will look 200 times worst than last year considering our QB situation.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:29 AM   #218
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First we have 3 nobody bodies in the interior !!

Secondly we have 2 of the softest tackles in the League !!

Trent Williams is a bust out of the gate and Should not be playing Left tackle.

He will look 200 times worst than last year considering our QB situation.
Huh?! Determined to be negative I see. We'll see how the 3 nobodies do - truly a question mark but by no means a sure thing suckage. Lich, Montgomery and Chester have each shown talent.

The "two softest tackles" and TW being a "bust out of the gate" are just inane rantings of negativity. Nope, TW was not a pro-bowl tackle - He struggled at times but mostly showed just why he was a top pick. He faced some top pass rushers last year and, by all accounts, generally acquitted himself well.

Got some actual analysis to back up your conclusions which, by the way, are contrary to the conclusions of every knowledgeable source (read - people who studied the tape) I have read so far?
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:32 AM   #219
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Where do you get your good news Redskins.com??? hahaha

Trent Williams is horrid at run blocking and also surrendered coutless hurries and pressures not mention more sacks than anyone who started at least 8 games.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:35 AM   #220
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Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.

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First we have 3 nobody bodies in the interior !!

Secondly we have 2 of the softest tackles in the League !!

Trent Williams is a bust out of the gate and Should not be playing Left tackle.

He will look 200 times worst than last year considering our QB situation.
That pretty much cements your troll status.
Go back to extremeskins....

And its spelled "worse".
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:02 AM   #221
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Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.

lol an entertaining 10 minutes of my life have passed reading the last few pages.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:09 AM   #222
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Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.

So back on topic,

I love SC's optimism, but if Hightower ends up being mentioned in the same breath as some of the great Redskins we've had at RB I will be shocked.

I love his work ethic and versatility, great pickup and I still can't believe we got him for what we did, but I'm not seeing an all time great in the works.

I'd love to be wrong though.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:33 AM   #223
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Matty,

I think that brings up a concern. Why did we get him for so cheap? On paper, it seems like a ridiculous steal. Why weren't there any other bidders?

For the record I think it was a good pickup. We got younger for a late draft pick.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:43 AM   #224
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Matty,

I think that brings up a concern. Why did we get him for so cheap? On paper, it seems like a ridiculous steal. Why weren't there any other bidders?

For the record I think it was a good pickup. We got younger for a late draft pick.
I'm guessing because they are content with their rookie 2nd rounder, Ryan Williams with Beanie Wells and Stephens-Howling backing him up.

Maybe they figured let's get something for TH now instead of cutting him.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:04 AM   #225
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Perhaps, I should have been clearer. I absolutely understand AZ's perspective. They already have good RBs and Hightower was not a necessity.

My question is, why weren't other teams after him which would in turn drive up the price? Not trying to be negative, but just a thought/concern. Either way, I am happy with the deal.
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