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Old 08-02-2011, 12:24 PM   #46
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There's still room for a guy like Carlos Rogers or Kelvin Hayden here (they're roughly the same player, and would probably be our best cover corner upon signing), but I don't know how much more we should be trying to block Phillip Buchanon, or Kevin Barnes, from seeing the field.
I'm hoping that this would be the year we get to see Barnes playing alot
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:36 PM   #47
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Because you need turnovers. A corner who can intercept is a huge plus. Ike Taylor does have shaky hands, true, but Ike can cover. Carlos cant cover as well as Ike. Like Cris Collinsworth said "If Carlos Rodgers had hands he'd be in the pro bowl every year." He doesn't so he's a little wanted corner who will blow a coverage every now and then and doesn't get your team picks/turnovers.
You're stretching to draw a distinction between Ike Taylor and Carlos Rogers where one doesn't exist. I respect your opinion that Ike is better, but either hands are a deal-breaking attribute for a corner, or they aren't. There cannot be a world where Ike Taylor is a highly valued cover corner and Carlos Rogers is totally unwanted.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:44 PM   #48
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Why is "can catch" an attribute for cornerbacks that arises only in discussions about Carlos Rogers? You never hear how much better at catching the ball Nate Clements is over Ike Taylor, even though that's unquestionably true.
In a way, that "can catch" discussion is a backhanded compliment of Rogers. If he couldn't cover, that is what people would talk about.
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:35 PM   #49
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Ike has better hands than Carlos. I thought I mentioned that already. Ike has 11 career picks, plus 3 more in the playoffs. Carlos has 8. Ike is a more physical corner the Los. Ike is taller and faster than Los. The point here I'm making is that when the games on the line and you have Peyton Manning going against Ike or Rogers, he's going to pick on Rogers. Sometimes the stats won't show what people see in games.
I...don't think you got the point, but if it makes you feel better I don't overtly disagree with anything you've written here.
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:35 PM   #50
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:37 PM   #51
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In a way, that "can catch" discussion is a backhanded compliment of Rogers. If he couldn't cover, that is what people would talk about.
Yeah. Hall's hands arent that great either, but no one ever talks about that because 1) Rogers, 2) He doesn't cover well, and 3) he's absolute money on INT returns, and thats what sticks out in people's mind.
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Why do people hate on HALL? I really have no idea how our best playmaker on D gets so much hate
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Welcome to the Warpath, the gathering point of all pessimistic Redskins fans. We hate our great players and root for those who had no chance to even make the team.

Previous targets were Landry, Portis, Sean Taylor, Joe Gibbs and Jesus.
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Welcome to the Warpath, the gathering point of all pessimistic Redskins fans. We hate our great players and root for those who had no chance to even make the team.

Previous targets were Landry, Portis, Sean Taylor, Joe Gibbs and Jesus.
And I beleive it wasn't in that order.
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:10 PM   #56
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DHall has hands. In one game he intercepted a QB 4 times. Thats half of carlos's career in one game (8).
Uh, right. That proves...something about DHall's hands.

He also had more dropped INTs last year than Carlos did, but I don't understand why you're so hung-up on Carlos Rogers hands.
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:29 PM   #57
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Saw this too, interesting -- I wonder what they have to say on their board about picking up our scraps
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:38 PM   #58
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Wondering what you Vets know/ think about the reasoning behind not re-signing Rocky McIntosh. Sure his initial asking price was up there, but he remains unsigned.

We have some youth there with Riley, Alexander and the continually injured Henson, but it's not like Rocky is all that old. He'll be 30 in November. Hada hell of a year last year. And what happens when Fletcher starts playing his age or gets injured?
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Rocky stunk in the 3-4 and wasn't that great in a 4-3. Time to move on.
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Re: 2011 NFL Free Agency-Part 3

stephon heyer signed a one year deal with the raiders.
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