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Old 08-02-2011, 04:22 PM   #31
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TC attendance and demand for tix have a lot more to do with the lockout and economy than Dan Snyder. Another PFT BS article trashing the Skins, it's fun and gets web-hits.....F PFT.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:25 PM   #32
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There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?

Christ...
C'mon. With any professional sports team, attendance at games, let alone a team's preseason practices, far more often than not reflects the current state of the team's strength, even where an organization is clearly going in the proverbial "right direction." To say that the Redskins' camp attendance is evidence of a "BS" fan base gives credence to a story that really doesn't deserve any to begin with. As others have said, there are any number of reasons having nothing to do with the team itself that are likely contributing to the poor numbers.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:28 PM   #33
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This is the non-story to top all non-stories. The team has gone 8-8, 5-11, 6-10 in the last three seasons. Combined with the worst economic disaster in our lifetime, record heat across all 50 states, and the longest work stoppage in the NFL's history, I would be amazed if our turnout hit record numbers as they usually do.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:33 PM   #34
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This is the non-story to top all non-stories. The team has gone 8-8, 4-12, 6-10 in the last three seasons. Combined with the worst economic disaster in our lifetime, record heat across all 50 states, and the longest work stoppage in the NFL's history, I would be amazed if our turnout hit record numbers as they usually do.
Had to change that. For some reason 5-11 doesn't feel nearly as bad as 4-12. I associate 4-12 with top 5 draft picks, and cemented status as one of the worst 3-4 teams in the NFL. Which we were that year.
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Had to change that. For some reason 5-11 doesn't feel nearly as bad as 4-12. I associate 4-12 with top 5 draft picks, and cemented status as one of the worst 3-4 teams in the NFL. Which we were that year.
Yup. Remember the old swinging gate play... that we tried two plays in a row?? I mean come on, who wouldn't want to shell out big bucks to see that kind of entertainment in person??
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:49 PM   #36
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Yup. Remember the old swinging gate play... that we tried two plays in a row?? I mean come on, who wouldn't want to shell out big bucks to see that kind of entertainment in person??
Absolutely horrible. I mean why would you try it again after you've called a timeout? The only thing that play has is the element of the surprise. And we lost that when the timeout was called. I'm trying to cut down on my facepalm usage, but come on.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:57 PM   #37
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Is there a cost to go see the Redskins at camp? Parking, entrance fee, etc?
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:05 PM   #38
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^ Not "really". Its free with or with out the free print out invitation....

Redskins offer free invitations to free training camp - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post

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Redskins offer free invitations to free training camp
By Dan Steinberg

Like many of you, I received an e-mail from the Redskins today, with the subject line of “Get Your FREE Training Camp Invite.” The image of the e-mail is the one you see above.

So I dutifully clicked through, and was taken to this CSNWashington.com page, which told me I was invited to Redskins Training Camp.

“Get your FREE Training Camp Invitation!” that page said. “Fill out the form below, print out the invitation and bring it with you to training camp.”

And then more: “Don’t forget: Print out the invitation and bring it with you to Training Camp!”

There were several “required fields” on this form, including first and last names, daytime phone number, mailing address and e-mail address, plus a chance to win some prizes by joining the season ticket wait list. “It's FREE to Join the Waitlist!” I was reminded.

Now, the use of “required fields” is actually a pretty strange thing, since it turns out that you don’t need this invitation at all. I asked a team official, who said fans can just show up if they want to attend practices, and some of my online users said that’s very much the case.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:10 PM   #39
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I always assumed the invitation thing was mainly to gauge how many would show up, and secondarily a source of data gathering, although it's probably equal of both.
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Had to change that. For some reason 5-11 doesn't feel nearly as bad as 4-12. I associate 4-12 with top 5 draft picks, and cemented status as one of the worst 3-4 teams in the NFL. Which we were that year.
My bad -- you're absolutely right. 4-12 is way worse than 5-11 than just 1 more loss/1 less win.
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Not sure but I think if you bring the invitation they put you on a list for prizes or something like that. You definitely don't need it.
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Small crowds at Redskins training camp reflect lockout, team’s downturn, lack of stars - The Washington Post
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:34 PM   #43
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Its a lockout year and its farging hot outside...not surprised.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:43 PM   #44
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I don't see how the lockout would keep people away...I'm more excited for football this year than I've been in a long time because there was the possibility it wouldn't happen!!! I can definitely see the economy as a culprit, although NFL games and especially the Skins have been pretty high end tix for quite some time.

Even factoring that out I find the article title misleading. I'm a fan and will love the Skins all my life. But I have no respect for Snyder and like others refrain from purchasing anything that will benefit him. Obviously we bring our personal bias into any debate but I'd like to think folks are sick of him not the team.
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I used to go to spring games at OU but have stopped recently, just too hot and honestly not that exciting.
Exactly. I've been to a few Skins training camps, a Jets (last year we waited 2 hours for the green/white scrimmage to start, left 20 minutes in because the bar seemed more fun), Bills... and they're just not interesting and its 100* out there. The only time I've ever really said wow that was fun after camp was the year I got to cover it, and when I was a kid and just chased autographs.

Maybe if the players didn't require all their practices to be out of pads, and there was some hitting and all that, people would be more interested...

I also think the lack of time to plan probably hurt peoples desire to go as well. Very few people I think can just pick up and go.
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