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Old 08-02-2011, 11:45 PM   #61
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1) NO QUARTERBACK.
2) NO FREE AGENT SPLASHES

That's why we don't have the excitement this year. No clear leader/QB, no big splashes in free agency. Although wise moves for the team, it doesn't pay dividends in jersey sales and training camp attendance. If Snyder wanted to sell out training camps and preseason, he'd have gotten: (1) Nnamdi Asmougha, (2) Reggie Bush, (3) Sydney Rice, (4) Santonio Holmes, (5) Yanda, (6) Kyle Orton / VY / Hasselback.. Instead of this, we've gotten young team-building players that will serve us better in the long run.

Remember: Haynesworth, Archuleta, Willie Parker, etc = ticket sales, but team failure
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:54 PM   #62
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Even if the measurables here actually indicated a waning of Skins' popularity - - and I doubt that they do at all - - the magnitudes need to be considered.

The Skins "decline" might be like the decrease in the height of the Rocky Mountains due to erosion over the past 1000 years. AND, even after that "decline" the Redskins remain THE more important and popular sports option (professional or amateur or collegiate) in the DC area by an inestimable margin.

The acronym best applied to this "analysis" is BFD...
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:57 PM   #63
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Two words as to why training camp attendance is down. John Beck. Over the last decade of training camps we've either had an in house 1st round pick or at worst a solid veteran. (Ramsey, Brunell, Campbell, McNabb) Beck is such an unknown that it's hard for a lot of the fan base to get behind him
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:16 AM   #64
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I wonder if the Twitter world we live in also impacts the attendance. Before if you wanted to know what was going on you had to attend camp, now you can get full updates anywhere. Often by people with closer access than you would have anyway
Thats a really good point, and one I probably think is very true. Even back ten years ago; you didnt get a quarter of the coverage you do now. Now you have radio shows live at camps, TV shows, highlights, website interviews, twitters and everything. It basically feels like you're right there anyways.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:59 AM   #65
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There are probably a ton of reasons why people have chosen not to go this year. Temps, money, lockout, lack of planning time, lack of "star power" . SOme may not like Snyder but I can't name an owner that is willing to spend Millions over Millions over Millions of his money to make the team better, the game experience better, the stadium better, training camp better. The guy loves the Redskins, and I am guessing the losing is hurting him more than it hurts us. He's made some rash decisions over the last decade but lets not forget he was 34 when he bought the team. Which one of us wouldn't have done some of the things he did when he bought the team. I probably would have tried to keep my prints on the team for a while as he did. We all think we know more about football personel than we really do. I am hoping he is learning his place this year and from what I can see the last couple of years he has been the check signer and that is about it. So yeah, those that want Snyder to sell and can't stand him, I would say get over it. He isn't going to sell, and he isn't going anywhere. Put it behind you and support the Skins, or dont. I'd rather have a guy that has his passion and willing to do whatever it takes than an owner that is cheap (bills, bengals, SF,)
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:10 AM   #66
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The lockout has nothing to do with the small crowds. Bottom line is the fans are tired of the losing. I also think that blackouts are right around the corner. Never ever thought I say that but it's going to happen.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:13 PM   #67
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There are probably a ton of reasons why people have chosen not to go this year. Temps, money, lockout, lack of planning time, lack of "star power" . SOme may not like Snyder but I can't name an owner that is willing to spend Millions over Millions over Millions of his money to make the team better, the game experience better, the stadium better, training camp better. The guy loves the Redskins, and I am guessing the losing is hurting him more than it hurts us. He's made some rash decisions over the last decade but lets not forget he was 34 when he bought the team. Which one of us wouldn't have done some of the things he did when he bought the team. I probably would have tried to keep my prints on the team for a while as he did. We all think we know more about football personel than we really do. I am hoping he is learning his place this year and from what I can see the last couple of years he has been the check signer and that is about it. So yeah, those that want Snyder to sell and can't stand him, I would say get over it. He isn't going to sell, and he isn't going anywhere. Put it behind you and support the Skins, or dont. I'd rather have a guy that has his passion and willing to do whatever it takes than an owner that is cheap (bills, bengals, SF,)


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Old 08-03-2011, 02:17 PM   #68
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The lockout has nothing to do with the small crowds. Bottom line is the fans are tired of the losing. I also think that blackouts are right around the corner. Never ever thought I say that but it's going to happen.
Danny Boy can avoid blackouts at about 30-cents on the dollar for unused tix by addign that amount to what the visiting team gets paid for showing up at Fed Ex.

I truly believe that Danny Boy recognizes that blacking out games in DC would hurt his bottom line more than "fillling the till for visiting clubs" out of his revenue streams would hurt the bottom line.

If the Redskins have to go into "blackout mode", it will be an indicator that the franchise itself is teetering...
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:35 PM   #69
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There are a ton of reasons why the skins popularity is declinging. I really wish they would get out of PG county and the cluster storm that is fed ex parking. i like many others decline free tickets now. just too much of a hassle to watch an inept team.

i know i talk about baltimore alot but on game day, the city is buzzing. people in purple walking to M&T from the surrounding neighborhoods. go to one of the many bars in fed hill, drink get some brunch, walk a few blocks to the stadium, go through the ravens walk with all types of booths and activities. the stadium seating is some much better than fed ex. upper deck seats you have a great view, fed ex your up there in the clouds watching lil ants run around.

when i walk out of my home, there are raven flags on every house, people close down streets, pull huge tvs out and have a neighborhood block parties . . .

just imagine if the skins played in downtown alexandria. it seems everything about the skins right now is horrible, from the team to the game day experience. hopefully mike can atleast get us a team we can feel good about.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:39 PM   #70
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Meanwhile in Cleveland, Colt McCoy is reaching new fan bases and their popularity is at an all-time high!

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If they were winning things would be fine, they are losing so there you have it.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:41 PM   #72
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Meanwhile in Cleveland, Colt McCoy is reaching new fan bases and their popularity is at an all-time high!

What in the name of being Amish? That's all I've got, I can't figure out why he would wanna go bowl haircut and trimmed beard.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:51 PM   #73
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3 observations. 1 - Is he autographing water bottles and cups? 2- is that kid gonna get his peach signed? 3 - neck zits, but ill give him a pass as i imagine thats where his shoulder pads meet his neck, sweating chaffing etc . . .
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3 observations. 1 - Is he autographing water bottles and cups? 2- is that kid gonna get his peach signed? 3 - neck zits, but ill give him a pass as i imagine thats where his shoulder pads meet his neck, sweating chaffing etc . . .
1. Yes
2. Maybe?
3. I'll second that pass.
4. I just noticed that entire family looks Amish. That's what I get for focusing on beard & bowl guy.
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Makes me want some Pretzel Sticks, Old Bay Wings, and Potato Wedges from the Dutch Farmers Market ! To Upper Marlboro but Laurel is closer !
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