Who do you want to start at QB?

Mattyk · 09-04-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

What if Rex Grossman is actually ready to become a far more consistent QB?

Dude throws four td's against the Cowboys in a very limited audition last year behind a dysfunctional o-line and many many Redskin fans are still convinced that you know what you get with Grossman. Good and Bad.

Except Grossman hasn't gotten any kind of real shot with the Washington Redskins to even show if he has actually developed.

What if Grossman is in fact ready to be mostly good Rex?

Because a mostly good Rex Grossman is an ABOVE AVERAGE NFL QB.

Just for the record I don't even know if I like Grossman I just don't get why Beck gets the benefit of the doubt just because nobody has seen him play.

Grossman already has the experience making the same mistakes that Beck will invariably have to make if he is ever going to become a consistent NFL starter.

You left out the part about him throwing 2 picks and losing a fumble against Dallas.

He is what he is, hell we saw it this preseason. He's streaky as hell. I don't see where he's ready to become anything other than what he already is... Consistently inconsistent.

That Guy · 09-04-2011, 09:03 PM

still with grossman. i'd prefer peyton manning, but on the realistic side, grossman is average, they're both 30, so I don't see this insane upside with beck. grossman is 20-14 as a starter and looked better. Mike's going to play whoever he wants to play, but I think we win more games with grossman.

Bucket · 09-04-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Neither guy is great, but Grossman got a team to the SB, Beck can never say he did. Of all the QB battles and controversies we have had with the Skins over the time I have been a Warpather and even beyond, why do folks never wise up? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We have been fooled more than twice now, way more than twice if you go back to Heath Shuler. Why do you all think Beck is the better option? Just because he is more mobile than Grossman? Remember Vick at ATL? He was mobile as hell, but couldn't get the job done in the passing game. Grossman is Mr. Cool in the pocket, Beck is great in the bootleg. How many guys in the NFL went to the SB doing the bootleg all the time? Grossman has actually started more than one season worth of games. Mr. Beck only 4. I get razed a lot for taking Gus Frerotte for me screen name, as he was a mediocre QB, but at least he made the Pro Bowl, etc. This Beck doesn't look so much more promising the Gus, so why do you jump on the bandwagon so to speak? Grossman could elevate his game to starter status right away, while Beck is 30 and yet to be a regular starter. I understand why you aren't completely sold on Rex, but why do you think Beck is going to light it up or even just do better than Rex? His audition for the job hasn't been so hot.

I stopped reading when I got to that.. Mr. Cool int he pocket

JoeRedskin · 09-04-2011, 09:21 PM

Can I just say that as I read through this thread my initial "good feeling" buzz from the preseason is fading fast. Let's face it:

As to Grossman, he has shown that when he is good, he is better than good enough to win. Unfortunately, both last year and in the preseason, he has shown (to me at least) that he hasn't shaken his bad habits. I saw nothing to convince me Bad Rex is tucked safely away in closet somewhere.

And then there's Beck, God help us all, he says all the right things, he has nice athleticism, a more than adequate arm and has the whole "late-bloomer" mystique working for him. Against Indy, he was terrific, he anticipated throws, had a nice quick release and really had a good tempo. But then Tampa happened - did anyone else watch him stare down receivers and make several "Dear God No!!!" throws?

I love the team except for the QB position and secondary. While I think the secondary may prove adequate, I am not so convinced about any choice made at the QB position.

Mattyk · 09-04-2011, 09:36 PM

In the end I don't think either guy is a savior, nor do they need to be. Our success is going to hinge more on our defense and running game. All we need is efficient QB play and someone who doesn't single handedly give away games.

NYCskinfan82 · 09-04-2011, 09:38 PM

Who do I want to see start Beck, but I WILL CHEER for either QB. HTTR.

JoeRedskin · 09-04-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I'm so sick of losing.

I know we aren't going to be world beaters this year.

I just hope whoever they pick really makes the most of the opportunity.

Yup. That about sums it all up. Well said.

Bucket · 09-04-2011, 11:30 PM

John Beck is the second coming of Brad Johnson

Ruhskins · 09-05-2011, 01:14 PM

I wonder who does Kyle Shanahan want as his starting QB? My idea is let's go with whoever Kyle wants. Last time we didn't, we got stuck with McNabb.

chrisl13 · 09-05-2011, 01:15 PM

Rex our starter for Sunday according to JLC.

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Ruhskins · 09-05-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisl13

Rex our starter for Sunday according to JLC.

Twitter

So in other words, we don't know yet.

Bucket · 09-05-2011, 01:22 PM

That's interesting.. Hopefully he can perform at a high level and help us win games without throwing them away.

Shanny is a man of his word. He preaches competition, and no matter how badly he wanted Beck to become the starter. Rex stepped up and performed to win the job.

SkinzWin · 09-05-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

John Beck is the second coming of Brad Johnson

I thought you were going to say Gus Frerotte. LOL.

Bucket · 09-05-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I thought you were going to say Gus Frerotte. LOL.

Haha.. I was being sarcastic. I believe Rex has what it takes to wins a lot of games for us this year. He looks solid last year, and good in preseason this year. As long as he doesn't turn into the turnover machine he'll be good to go.

SirClintonPortis · 09-05-2011, 01:38 PM

History likes to repeat itself. Some chump from the Giants will injure Rex, then we roll with Beck all the way to the Super Bowl and beyond.

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09-04-2011, 09:03 PM	#422
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,620	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? still with grossman. i'd prefer peyton manning, but on the realistic side, grossman is average, they're both 30, so I don't see this insane upside with beck. grossman is 20-14 as a starter and looked better. Mike's going to play whoever he wants to play, but I think we win more games with grossman. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

09-04-2011, 09:21 PM	#424
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,144	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Can I just say that as I read through this thread my initial "good feeling" buzz from the preseason is fading fast. Let's face it: As to Grossman, he has shown that when he is good, he is better than good enough to win. Unfortunately, both last year and in the preseason, he has shown (to me at least) that he hasn't shaken his bad habits. I saw nothing to convince me Bad Rex is tucked safely away in closet somewhere. And then there's Beck, God help us all, he says all the right things, he has nice athleticism, a more than adequate arm and has the whole "late-bloomer" mystique working for him. Against Indy, he was terrific, he anticipated throws, had a nice quick release and really had a good tempo. But then Tampa happened - did anyone else watch him stare down receivers and make several "Dear God No!!!" throws? I love the team except for the QB position and secondary. While I think the secondary may prove adequate, I am not so convinced about any choice made at the QB position. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

09-04-2011, 09:36 PM	#425
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,673	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? In the end I don't think either guy is a savior, nor do they need to be. Our success is going to hinge more on our defense and running game. All we need is efficient QB play and someone who doesn't single handedly give away games. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-04-2011, 09:38 PM	#426
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 43 Posts: 2,975	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Who do I want to see start Beck, but I WILL CHEER for either QB. HTTR.

09-04-2011, 11:30 PM	#428
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? John Beck is the second coming of Brad Johnson __________________ HTTR Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

09-05-2011, 01:14 PM	#429
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I wonder who does Kyle Shanahan want as his starting QB? My idea is let's go with whoever Kyle wants. Last time we didn't, we got stuck with McNabb. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

09-05-2011, 01:15 PM	#430
chrisl13 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 2 Minutes away from Fedex Field, Maryland Posts: 326	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Rex our starter for Sunday according to JLC. Twitter __________________ "That is exactly the kind of idiot you see at Taco Bell at 1 in the morning!" -That Talking Baby From Family Guy Last edited by chrisl13; 09-05-2011 at 01:16 PM.

09-05-2011, 01:22 PM	#432
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? That's interesting.. Hopefully he can perform at a high level and help us win games without throwing them away. Shanny is a man of his word. He preaches competition, and no matter how badly he wanted Beck to become the starter. Rex stepped up and performed to win the job. __________________ HTTR Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

09-05-2011, 01:38 PM	#435
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? History likes to repeat itself. Some chump from the Giants will injure Rex, then we roll with Beck all the way to the Super Bowl and beyond. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

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