Who do you want to start at QB?

Mattyk · 10-17-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

True, Rex is what he is but Beck also is what he is which is why I dont really see that a change will make much of a difference.

Outside of a few starts as a rookie in '07 Beck really hasn't had a real opportunity.

At the very least he's more mobile, and I can't see him making those knucklehead throws that Rex is prone to.

SmootSmack · 10-17-2011, 12:28 PM

The guy we could have easily signed and who should start will be starting tonight for the Dolphins....**keeps fingers crossed that Moore doesn't make him look like a fool**

irish · 10-17-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Outside of a few starts as a rookie in '07 Beck really hasn't had a real opportunity.

At the very least he's more mobile, and I can't see him making those knucklehead throws that Rex is prone to.

I think Beck has had his chances but it seems he just cant win the starting job. Maybe he's a game player not a practice star.

It is amazing some of the stupid throws Rex makes. I still say that's a function of his being too short. At least there's a QB controversy to keep everyone interested.

GMScud · 10-17-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Looks like this might split the locker room. Santana Moss, D.Young, and Jabar Gaffney have all publicly stated they think Rex should remain the starter.

Not.Good.

Yeah I don't think it splits the locker room. Once the decision is made, I'm sure the players will support Shanny's decision. Hard to stand up for the way Rex has played. He's terrible and that really isn't up for debate right now.

Mattyk · 10-17-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I think Beck has had his chances but it seems he just cant win the starting job. Maybe he's a game player not a practice star.

It is amazing some of the stupid throws Rex makes. I still say that's a function of his being too short. At least there's a QB controversy to keep everyone interested.

Well, he makes horrible decisions in the pocket and out of it. There are other guys in the league his height and even shorter that don't throw the dumb INTs he does.

KI Skins Fan · 10-17-2011, 12:39 PM

Just as Rex earned the starting job based on his performance, he had to be pulled based on his performance.

I supported Rex as the starter because he earned it, yet I felt that the competition was close. I think that Rex is a finished product as a QB so his continuing development shouldn't be a factor in any QB decision. I also think that Rex is more suited to be backup rather than starter. So let Rex, the backup, backup Beck. It's no big deal, IMO.

As for Beck, I wonder if he might possibly develop into a better QB than he is right now with some playing time.

I suspect that we may ultimately find out that both of these QB's are NFL backups. But since we don't yet know if John Beck can become starter quality and we can be fairly certain that Rex can't, I say let's find out what Beck can do.

GMScud · 10-17-2011, 12:39 PM

At the very least we get to have a look at Beck's upside. He's got the arm, the smarts, and the athleticism. I don't think he's gonna be a star, but Rex is and always has been Rex. His ceiling is a middle of the road NFL starter, and we saw his floor yesterday.

I think you could see it on his face on the sidelines after he got benched- Rex knows that barring injury, his days as a starting QB in the NFL are finished.

SmootSmack · 10-17-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

At the very least we get to have a look at Beck's upside. He's got the arm, the smarts, and the athleticism. I don't think he's gonna be a star, but Rex is and always has been Rex. His ceiling is a middle of the road NFL starter, and we saw his floor yesterday.

I think you could see it on his face on the sidelines after he got benched- Rex knows that barring injury, his days as a starting QB in the NFL are finished.

I'm still not totally convinced on Beck's arm. He threw a few ducks yesterday. But we'll see

GMScud · 10-17-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm still not totally convinced on Beck's arm. He threw a few ducks yesterday. But we'll see

He threw one duck, the other one on the replay slipped out of his hand as he was throwing it. Yeah it was his bad, but not indicative of arm strength. Grip strength maybe?

SmootSmack · 10-17-2011, 12:47 PM

Hmm. I'll have to go back and watch. Thought I saw a couple.

GMScud · 10-17-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hmm. I'll have to go back and watch. Thought I saw a couple.

Maybe there were a couple. I only remember two, one of which was the one I was talking about where it was slipping out of his hands.

12thMan · 10-17-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Maybe there were a couple. I only remember two, one of which was the one I was talking about where it was slipping out of his hands.

He definitely threw two ducks by my count and couple of low balls.

Chico23231 · 10-17-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

He definitely threw two ducks by my count and couple of low balls.

I hate to say nerves, but believe it was. Lets see a full game with starter reps and proper preperation. Rex has gotten worse as the season has gone on. Beck, not completely sold either, but lets at least give him a proper shot.

irish · 10-17-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well, he makes horrible decisions in the pocket and out of it. There are other guys in the league his height and even shorter that don't throw the dumb INTs he does.

Good points. In the end Beck is stuck with the same inadequate supporting cast as Rex which is why I am not expecting much difference.

Ruhskins · 10-17-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hmm. I'll have to go back and watch. Thought I saw a couple.

He threw some ducks but also threw a couple of good deep passes. I just hope he is durable though. He got hurt in the offseason and now he's going to get hit every now and then, so I hope he stays healthy.

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10-17-2011, 12:28 PM	#452
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? The guy we could have easily signed and who should start will be starting tonight for the Dolphins....keeps fingers crossed that Moore doesn't make him look like a fool __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-17-2011, 12:39 PM	#456
KI Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 1,297	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Just as Rex earned the starting job based on his performance, he had to be pulled based on his performance. I supported Rex as the starter because he earned it, yet I felt that the competition was close. I think that Rex is a finished product as a QB so his continuing development shouldn't be a factor in any QB decision. I also think that Rex is more suited to be backup rather than starter. So let Rex, the backup, backup Beck. It's no big deal, IMO. As for Beck, I wonder if he might possibly develop into a better QB than he is right now with some playing time. I suspect that we may ultimately find out that both of these QB's are NFL backups. But since we don't yet know if John Beck can become starter quality and we can be fairly certain that Rex can't, I say let's find out what Beck can do.

10-17-2011, 12:39 PM	#457
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? At the very least we get to have a look at Beck's upside. He's got the arm, the smarts, and the athleticism. I don't think he's gonna be a star, but Rex is and always has been Rex. His ceiling is a middle of the road NFL starter, and we saw his floor yesterday. I think you could see it on his face on the sidelines after he got benched- Rex knows that barring injury, his days as a starting QB in the NFL are finished. __________________ Insert witty signature here

10-17-2011, 12:47 PM	#460
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Hmm. I'll have to go back and watch. Thought I saw a couple. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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