Who do you want to start at QB?

htownskinfan · 08-24-2011, 10:25 AM

Its too early to vote now,Becks played a couple qaurters,thats it,you cant base anything on that.If he starts against the Ravens and plays well we will know a little more,but not much,even that could be misleading.
I like Grossmans approach of looking downfield and stretching the field more,I hate the dink n dunk crap.
Ive only seen Beck in one game,is it just me or does he have a wierd throwing motion? I thought a few times it looked like he was slinging some sidearm

SmootSmack · 08-24-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

On Jan.20th 2010 this poll was conducted on which QB we thought would start the 2011 season. http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...he+2011+season (Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?)

We've seen 1/2 of a preseason game from John Beck and the disparity, percentage wise, between he and Rex Grossman has shrunk tremendously during that eight month period. There has to be a good reason for that.

Well...they are two different questions

Longtimefan · 08-24-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Its too early to vote now,Becks played a couple qaurters,thats it,you cant base anything on that.If he starts against the Ravens and plays well we will know a little more,but not much,even that could be misleading.
I like Grossmans approach of looking downfield and stretching the field more,I hate the dink n dunk crap.
Ive only seen Beck in one game,is it just me or does he have a wierd throwing motion? I thought a few times it looked like he was slinging some sidearm

For the most part I've been a supporter of John Beck from day one. I did so because I hadn't seen much of him in the past and wanted to see what he could do in this offense. My support for him has not waned because I'm a Redskin fan and whoever is under center I'll root for, but I want to see more of him under different sets of circumstances before the pendulum can be swung either up or down.

Longtimefan · 08-24-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well...they are two different questions

Maybe, but I think the end result is basically the same. If there's a judgement there must be something to base it on.

skinsfan69 · 08-24-2011, 10:46 AM

At this point I really don't care. Everyone is on the Beck bandwagon after one half of a pre season game. To me that's just ridiculous. I just can't judge a guy off that. I assume we're going to see both guys this year and perhaps one will seperate himself. But I really believe that this team needs to draft a guy next year.

Paintrain · 08-24-2011, 10:54 AM

Beck for 3 simple reasons:
1. We've seen all that Rex can do-good and bad. We aren't in a position where the QB is going to be the difference between being a SB contender or being 3-13. We are probably firmly in the 7 to 9 win range so it's best to see what we have in Beck.
2. Beck seems to have the pulse and support of the team. Not trying to overstate things from one half of one preseason game but Beck has really stepped up to become a leader, Rex seems happy to just be part of the team. I want my QB to lead by example and set a tone.
3. I really want to shut up the Mike Greenburgs and Rich Eisens of the national media who keep singing the 'JOHN BECK!?!?' chorus like he's a guy we pulled out of the accounting department of IBM and plugged him in. I hope Mike and Kyle drop a big old 'told ya so' on those guys.

Lotus · 08-24-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

On Jan.20th 2010 this poll was conducted on which QB we thought would start the 2011 season. http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...he+2011+season (Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?)

We've seen 1/2 of a preseason game from John Beck and the disparity, percentage wise, between he and Rex Grossman has shrunk tremendously during that eight month period. There has to be a good reason for that.

When that poll was made Shanny had not yet made public statements of support for Beck. Also, after McNabb had been yanked, Grossman played, not Beck. The lay of the speculation land was different then, even if we lay aside preseason 2011 performance.

SmootSmack · 08-24-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Its too early to vote now,Becks played a couple qaurters,thats it,you cant base anything on that.If he starts against the Ravens and plays well we will know a little more,but not much,even that could be misleading.
I like Grossmans approach of looking downfield and stretching the field more,I hate the dink n dunk crap.
Ive only seen Beck in one game,is it just me or does he have a wierd throwing motion? I thought a few times it looked like he was slinging some sidearm

I saw some of that sidearm motion as well

celts32 · 08-24-2011, 11:36 AM

Beck is the easy choice. We already know what Grossman is. Beck is more of an unknown...he could be better or he could be worse. Only way to find out is to play him. We can always turn to Grossman during the season if Beck is a flop.

Longtimefan · 08-24-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

When that poll was made Shanny had not yet made public statements of support for Beck. Also, after McNabb had been yanked, Grossman played, not Beck. The lay of the speculation land was different then, even if we lay aside preseason 2011 performance.

For me it was not about Shanahan and or his support for either QB. It was about opinions solicited from our posters and their support or lack thereof for those listed in the poll. I voted in the poll based on my feelings when comparing the QB's listed for comparison not having any idea how Shanahan felt about any of them...Beck/Grossman respectively since they were already on the team at the time the poll was conducted.

Look closely and you'll witness some suggesting Beck should not even be on the team, to now suggesting he should be the starter. Your word is your bond.

Mattyk · 08-24-2011, 11:51 AM

A lot has changed since then. Hard to hold opinions against someone given the circumstances then vs. now.

Longtimefan · 08-24-2011, 12:05 PM

There's not much of a premium on opinions therefore they need not be valued. I understand.

SmootSmack · 08-24-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

For me it was not about Shanahan and or his support for either QB. It was about opinions solicited from our posters and their support or lack thereof for those listed in the poll. I voted in the poll based on my feelings when comparing the QB's listed for comparison not having any idea how Shanahan felt about any of them...Beck/Grossman respectively since they were already on the team at the time the poll was conducted.

Look closely and you'll witness some suggesting Beck should not even be on the team, to now suggesting he should be the starter. Your word is your bond.

Honestly, I don't entirely follow your point here

Mattyk · 08-24-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

There's not much of a premium on opinions therefore they need not be valued. I understand.

Given the circumstances that have changed since then, no, I don't think you can put much value on those opinions from back then.

rbanerjee23 · 08-24-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Beck for 3 simple reasons:
1. We've seen all that Rex can do-good and bad. We aren't in a position where the QB is going to be the difference between being a SB contender or being 3-13. We are probably firmly in the 7 to 9 win range so it's best to see what we have in Beck.
2. Beck seems to have the pulse and support of the team. Not trying to overstate things from one half of one preseason game but Beck has really stepped up to become a leader, Rex seems happy to just be part of the team. I want my QB to lead by example and set a tone.
3. I really want to shut up the Mike Greenburgs and Rich Eisens of the national media who keep singing the 'JOHN BECK!?!?' chorus like he's a guy we pulled out of the accounting department of IBM and plugged him in. I hope Mike and Kyle drop a big old 'told ya so' on those guys.

Amen brother ... the first thing I would add to this list is that Beck seems like he understands his role. He seems to understand that he hasn't done anything and how big of a responsibility it is to be the starting qb of a team (no one really knows what he's thinking but he's saying the right things). Lastly, MS and KS are really high on this guy and whether it's just a diversion, a ploy or they really believe it, these guys know good quarterbacks so I am more likely to trust their judgment -- I know, I know what about DMac? Hey, they let him go after a season, a good FO/talent evaluation team knows when they have made a mistake and corrects it ASAP and that's what happened in that situation.

View Poll Results: Who Do You Want Starting at QB Opening Day?
John Beck	123	73.65%
Rex Grossman	44	26.35%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

08-24-2011, 10:25 AM	#46
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 51 Posts: 3,011	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Its too early to vote now,Becks played a couple qaurters,thats it,you cant base anything on that.If he starts against the Ravens and plays well we will know a little more,but not much,even that could be misleading. I like Grossmans approach of looking downfield and stretching the field more,I hate the dink n dunk crap. Ive only seen Beck in one game,is it just me or does he have a wierd throwing motion? I thought a few times it looked like he was slinging some sidearm __________________ Ho Lee Chit

08-24-2011, 10:46 AM	#50
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,104	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? At this point I really don't care. Everyone is on the Beck bandwagon after one half of a pre season game. To me that's just ridiculous. I just can't judge a guy off that. I assume we're going to see both guys this year and perhaps one will seperate himself. But I really believe that this team needs to draft a guy next year.

08-24-2011, 10:54 AM	#51
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,529	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Beck for 3 simple reasons: 1. We've seen all that Rex can do-good and bad. We aren't in a position where the QB is going to be the difference between being a SB contender or being 3-13. We are probably firmly in the 7 to 9 win range so it's best to see what we have in Beck. 2. Beck seems to have the pulse and support of the team. Not trying to overstate things from one half of one preseason game but Beck has really stepped up to become a leader, Rex seems happy to just be part of the team. I want my QB to lead by example and set a tone. 3. I really want to shut up the Mike Greenburgs and Rich Eisens of the national media who keep singing the 'JOHN BECK!?!?' chorus like he's a guy we pulled out of the accounting department of IBM and plugged him in. I hope Mike and Kyle drop a big old 'told ya so' on those guys. __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

08-24-2011, 11:36 AM	#54
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 41 Posts: 2,643	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Beck is the easy choice. We already know what Grossman is. Beck is more of an unknown...he could be better or he could be worse. Only way to find out is to play him. We can always turn to Grossman during the season if Beck is a flop. __________________ Section 115 Row 23 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” http://victorybeer.com/

08-24-2011, 11:51 AM	#56
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,673	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? A lot has changed since then. Hard to hold opinions against someone given the circumstances then vs. now. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-24-2011, 12:05 PM	#57
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? There's not much of a premium on opinions therefore they need not be valued. I understand. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

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