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Old 08-23-2011, 08:27 PM   #31
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CP carried the offense through some very tough seasons and IMO he deserves our respect. It's sad to see fans dismiss what he did in a Skins uniform.

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I agree. Portis, for all of many failings, contributed a great deal to our team over the years. To not respect him is to be ungrateful.

However, I'm still glad that he's gone. In fact, we should have sent him packing a year earlier.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:14 PM   #32
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I'm with the 'screw the hatters' troop... cp was a boss. Don't like it? Oh well.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:03 PM   #33
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Well this is the team that let John Beck get away ...
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:39 PM   #34
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I thought Portis was excellent in his time here....a character, yes, so was Riggo.
He was selfless on the field and sacrificed his body for his QB, even when the line totally sucked..it probably shortened his career.
So don't give him crap, maybe he didn't like to practice all the time, but on game day, he gave his all...I wish we had more like him

I wish him well...too bad he let himself get flabby so quickly
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:20 AM   #35
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Clinton Portis while immensely talented and a fierce competitor on gameday, never gave 100% commitment to the team--more like 85%. He stubbornly turtled in preseason(I don't see Hightower or Helu doing so) and sometimes exercised a lack of prudence over the air.
I disagree with this. The guy hurt himself in a PRESEASON game and missed part of the season the second year after Gibbs came back.

I will grant he was a diva. I am glad he has moved on , but he deserves some love from the Redskins fan base. I always thought if he had a good line it could have been different. During his time all he had working for him was Sellers and Samuels.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:09 PM   #36
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Look i have moved past my bashing Portis issue sometime last summer, before he got hurt, but even after I wasn't trying to kick dirt on him while he was down. The fact is, I didn't like the guy. I did have respect for what he did on the field, but that respect was also coupled with a little bit of wonder when i myself thought at times how much different CP could have been here had he gave true 100% to this team. And the fact is, at least in my opinion, and one shared by others here, is that he didn't.

The sad part of it all, is that his great redskin accomplishments (and there were many) were overshadowed in the end by his diva attitude, poor work ethich, and lack of respect for some of his team-mates, as well as coaches (Jim Zorn, Mike Sellars, even Shaun Alexander!!).

Some fans think of Portis and can only remember the crybaby, the me-first locker room cancer, and the guy who was always quick to throw the team and its coach under the bus. I myself, at times, are one of those people. But I think the longtime fans can remember the guy before his attitude went south, and the incredible excitement and energy he brought to the game (when he chose to bring it). I am that fan too at times.

But reality is that he's had two auditions as a backup, maybe even a 3rd string runningback (New England), and he looked shot in both of them. Credit to CP for losing 25 pounds in 2 weeks for his NE workout, but it's also a testament to how far he let himself go when reports from Foxboro said he was still about 20 pounds overweight. He probably won't make an NFL squad again unless there is a horrible on-field tragedy involving about 4 runningbacks for the same team. I mean the fins chose Larry Johnson over Portis, that should tell you something. Johnson is the better back at this point in their careers because Johnson kept himself in shape incase a team needed him, and Portis obviously didn't.

This, i feel, confirms many opinions, mine included, when people said CP was done after the redskins cut him.
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Look i have moved past my bashing Portis issue sometime last summer, before he got hurt, but even after I wasn't trying to kick dirt on him while he was down. The fact is, I didn't like the guy. I did have respect for what he did on the field, but that respect was also coupled with a little bit of wonder when i myself thought at times how much different CP could have been here had he gave true 100% to this team. And the fact is, at least in my opinion, and one shared by others here, is that he didn't.

The sad part of it all, is that his great redskin accomplishments (and there were many) were overshadowed in the end by his diva attitude, poor work ethich, and lack of respect for some of his team-mates, as well as coaches (Jim Zorn, Mike Sellars, even Shaun Alexander!!).

Some fans think of Portis and can only remember the crybaby, the me-first locker room cancer, and the guy who was always quick to throw the team and its coach under the bus. I myself, at times, are one of those people. But I think the longtime fans can remember the guy before his attitude went south, and the incredible excitement and energy he brought to the game (when he chose to bring it). I am that fan too at times.

But reality is that he's had two auditions as a backup, maybe even a 3rd string runningback (New England), and he looked shot in both of them. Credit to CP for losing 25 pounds in 2 weeks for his NE workout, but it's also a testament to how far he let himself go when reports from Foxboro said he was still about 20 pounds overweight. He probably won't make an NFL squad again unless there is a horrible on-field tragedy involving about 4 runningbacks for the same team. I mean the fins chose Larry Johnson over Portis, that should tell you something. Johnson is the better back at this point in their careers because Johnson kept himself in shape incase a team needed him, and Portis obviously didn't.

This, i feel, confirms many opinions, mine included, when people said CP was done after the redskins cut him.
Pretty much sums it up. Glad we have some new blood in there at RB.
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Pretty much sums it up. Glad we have some new blood in there at RB.
Yeah it was time for a change. I'm glad the whole culture has changed here, or at least appears to be, but it's definatley different looking out and seeing a squad of young guys with some veterans mixed in. Usually its all just vets expecting to get paid.

New blood at RB was needed for a while. It was a tragic shame here that the way it was before was a player had to get hurt in order for us to see change at the position. At times it seemed like Jason Campbell held the QB position hostage because no matter how poor he would play, he would never get the hook. I mean Zorn did it more out of desperation, he knew his job was on the line, but i remember back when some people were wishing for Campbell to get banged up so that we could see if another QB could make a difference. (And it did with Todd Collins)

RB was the same way. It's like the team knew that Portis was worn out, but because of his relationship with Snyder or whatever, they wouldn't bench him. My love for Shanahan & company grew way more last season when Donovan was benched, i didn't think Snyder would actually let coach do that, but he won a lot of respect for me because he wasnt afraid to make changes if he felt it would help this football team. good for him.
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I disagree with this. The guy hurt himself in a PRESEASON game and missed part of the season the second year after Gibbs came back.

I will grant he was a diva. I am glad he has moved on , but he deserves some love from the Redskins fan base. I always thought if he had a good line it could have been different. During his time all he had working for him was Sellers and Samuels.
He got hurt and that was the leverage he needed to basically never play in it again. He even got in a little spat with Zorn.

He deserves love for the 85-90% he did give to the Skins'. He deserves most of the crticism for the 10-15% of not-so-good baggage he brought.
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In my opinion, in my 30 years of watching the Redskins Portis is one of the best to ever don the Redskins uniform. I don't get this whole knock on him for only giving 90%. That's more than most any teammate did probably, and more than any of us probably do at our own jobs.
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In my opinion, in my 30 years of watching the Redskins Portis is one of the best to ever don the Redskins uniform. I don't get this whole knock on him for only giving 90%. That's more than most any teammate did probably, and more than any of us probably do at our own jobs.
Cause it is a what have you done for me lately league. You are only as good as you last game. Best of luck CP
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In my opinion, in my 30 years of watching the Redskins Portis is one of the best to ever don the Redskins uniform. I don't get this whole knock on him for only giving 90%. That's more than most any teammate did probably, and more than any of us probably do at our own jobs.
In a way it is the whole never meet your heroes argument, but instead of meeting him, he out a little too much out there causing to see sides of him you right not normally see from an athlete

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CP gave 110% on gameday, period. I have little doubt if we took the time to peruse old threads the vast majority of comments would reflect it. He was a warrior who sacrificed his body time and again, behind often sub-par lines and QBs.

That said I think we all agree Portis "rested" himself in practice. I don't fault the guy for it. He took an awful beating nearly every week (gameday) and one could make the argument "resting" during the week helped him give that 110% on gameday and possibly extended the life of his career.

It is certainly true CP would have to wholeheartedly rededicate himself to extend his career at this point. Whether he does so is a personal choice and I wish him well regardless.
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Cause it is a what have you done for me lately league. You are only as good as you last game. Best of luck CP
What did he do for us, besides help lead us to the playoffs in '05 and '07? What has he done for us, besides play hard in games that mattered? What else did he do for us, besides pass block like his life depended on it? Nobody wants to talk about that, it's all about him being a little too honest on sports talk radio, or having photos of him clubbing it up on the internet, or talking about what a bad teammate/detriment to the team he was.

I agree in the sense that he was obviously worn down the last couple years, and we would've been better served bringing in a #2 that could split carries/be a true home threat in our Helu sense this year, but people act like he was a worthless fat prick that just ripped us off for 32 mil for 2 years of average play.
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What did he do for us, besides help lead us to the playoffs in '05 and '07? What has he done for us, besides play hard in games that mattered? What else did he do for us, besides pass block like his life depended on it? Nobody wants to talk about that, it's all about him being a little too honest on sports talk radio, or having photos of him clubbing it up on the internet, or talking about what a bad teammate/detriment to the team he was.

I agree in the sense that he was obviously worn down the last couple years, and we would've been better served bringing in a #2 that could split carries/be a true home threat in our Helu sense this year, but people act like he was a worthless fat prick that just ripped us off for 32 mil for 2 years of average play.
He was a contributor to those playoff teams, no doubt. But along with all those praises of the once-mighty Clinton Portis, people also forget the supremely great play calling in 2005 along with reliable and at times brilliant play by veteran QB Mark Brunell who sort of had his comeback season after such a poor year in 2004. In 2007, don't kid yourself if you think Portis saved the season. That was the Todd Collins show and I dont think you'll find many people that will disagree with that.

The bottom line is Portis' attitude and questionable work ethic is what is keeping him out of the NFL right now, not the fact that he is overweight. Any team knows for sure he would lose the weight once he signs and starts practicing/conditioning, but Portis has that whole "I don't practice" reputation that he nicley carved for himself.

If it weren't so, the Dolphins or the Patriots would have signed him. But they knew his attitude and reputation far outweighs any benefit from signing him. That's why Miami signed Larry Johnson, who kept himself in shape and is humble enough at this point to accept any role on a team. Humble, and Portis are two words that don't really mesh well together.
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