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Old 08-24-2011, 11:43 AM   #16
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

I am in favor of leaving the best game in the world the way it is. Maybe the PAT is automatic but who cares...it takes 10 seconds and they are off to the kickoff. The NFL needs to stop trying to fix what's not broken.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:45 AM   #17
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

With the new rule changes kickoffs are pretty much worthless. No one but the stupid or the desperate will bring it out deep in the endzone so what's the point of having kickoffs all together? I suppose some would like the opportunity to have a chance of returning if they have a good return game.


As for the extra point i'm down with moving it back...not to the 20 yard line but to the 15 yard line.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:47 AM   #18
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I am in favor of leaving the best game in the world the way it is. Maybe the PAT is automatic but who cares...it takes 10 seconds and they are off to the kickoff. The NFL needs to stop trying to fix what's not broken.
I agree that its not broken and doesnt need fixed. While PATs seem automatic it never fails that when a team misses one it seems like that missed point haunts them the whole game and ends up making things interesting in the end.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:53 AM   #19
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

Yeah i think theres waaaayyyyy too much tinkering with the game. Just leave it as is.

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Old 08-24-2011, 11:56 AM   #20
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

Also when Tony Romo dropeed the snap at the Seahawks playoff game. While not a PAT it was acutally 1 yard closer then a normal PAT. Sometimes things taken for granted become real nerve racking when its a must make situtation
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:57 AM   #21
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Frankly, I don't care what they do with PATs. They can eliminate them, move the line back, whatever.

I am saddened by the new rule that makes kickoffs a far smaller part of the game. However, as long as "player safety" is a prime motivator, the kickoff return is going to be an "endangered species".

Note that the Canadian Football League has no fair catch and it has a rule that the returner must have a "bubble around him" with no opposing players in the bubble for him to field the punt. If defenders get too close, it is a penalty. I would like to see the NFL experiment with that rule in the exhibition games next season.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:28 PM   #22
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

I think they have to allow punt returners the option to fair catch, they would get blasted but i suppose instead of fair catching the ball they could just let it go and the punting team would be rewarded some more yards unless it does a crazy bounce.

Im still waiting for teams to figure out how to work the shortened kickoffs to their advantage instead of just booming it into the endzone for a touchback.

with the shorter kickoffs it should allow the kicker to send a high kickoff landing around the 2 yard line so his coverage team has more time to get down there and tackle the returner before the 20. But they also changed the rule to were the coverage team has to be within 5 yards of the ball at kickoff to prevent guys from getting a 20 yard head of steam like before . . . but i could def see a ST coach try and use the shortened kickoffs to his advantage instead of just taking the seemingly automatic touchback. get creative
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Note that the Canadian Football League has no fair catch and it has a rule that the returner must have a "bubble around him" with no opposing players in the bubble for him to field the punt. If defenders get too close, it is a penalty. I would like to see the NFL experiment with that rule in the exhibition games next season.
That's interesting -- it would make PRs a lot more interesting. Imagine banks having a chance to slip by like 3 guys who are in a 3 yard circle. How do u officiate that though because the returner could kind of sort of move and cause people to be closer than they should be.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:50 PM   #24
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

That CFL rule is what first got me thinking, almost 20 years back, that we could do without a fair catch.
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For the money these guys make they should remove just about all the rules and make it a free for all!!!!!!!
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For the money these guys make they should remove just about all the rules and make it a free for all!!!!!!!
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

I like that a TD and resulting play can be worth 6-8 points. It adds an extra level of strategy and flexibility into the game!
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Frankly, I don't care what they do with PATs. They can eliminate them, move the line back, whatever.

I am saddened by the new rule that makes kickoffs a far smaller part of the game. However, as long as "player safety" is a prime motivator, the kickoff return is going to be an "endangered species".

Note that the Canadian Football League has no fair catch and it has a rule that the returner must have a "bubble around him" with no opposing players in the bubble for him to field the punt. If defenders get too close, it is a penalty. I would like to see the NFL experiment with that rule in the exhibition games next season.
THAT'S Awesome....can the opposing players hurl insults, threats and surly rhetoric at the returner?
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:36 PM   #29
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Would go against what they are trying to achieve. Player safety. Not going to happen.
I understand as this is supposed to be all about safety. In the interest of safety, just put the ball on the 20yd. line to start the game and eliminate the KO altogether.
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Re: Belichick Would Like To See The Extra Point Eliminated

As others have said it is ridiculous that the kickoffs were moved forward because of player safety. If big hits are really what the NFL want to prevent why even make it a possibility? Eliminate the KO all together. The justification makes no sense.

And yes, give points to the kicker if he kicks it through the uprights on a kickoff. Kind of a ridiculous way to get points, so it should be worth half of a PAT. But since we as Americans don't like decimals and we value point spreads, double the value of each scoring play. KO FGs =1; PATs=2;SAF-4; FGs=6; TDs=12.
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