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Old 01-02-2005, 08:50 PM   #31
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Cut the whole damn bunch of them. Clearly, we need to start from the ground up. Let's get some big name free agents in here. We need more changes because the changes we made last year didn't work. Obviously, changing things again will work, it always has in the past - Oh wait...

Dear lord, please save us poor Skins fans from ourselves.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:52 PM   #32
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That's what I've been saying ever since I started posting on this site JoeRedskin.
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:44 PM   #33
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Wow. Wilbon is right, us Redskins fans need to get some perspective. Portis is one of the top 5 backs in the game today. He's 23 years old and people are ready to give up on him because he only had 1300 yds on a pathetic offense? Just stop. If he had completely crapped the bed and had 500 yds for the season then may I could see the complaints, but the whole offense stunk. If Betts was the answer then why didn't he do jack against the Cowboys when he needed to get first downs? Oh, can one man not do it all by himself? He needs others to help? Hmm.. It's going to be a long offseason if we have to put up with this crap for 6 months.
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:44 PM   #34
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Wow. Wilbon is right, us Redskins fans need to get some perspective. Portis is one of the top 5 backs in the game today. He's 23 years old and people are ready to give up on him because he only had 1300 yds on a pathetic offense? Just stop. If he had completely crapped the bed and had 500 yds for the season then may I could see the complaints, but the whole offense stunk. If Betts was the answer then why didn't he do jack against the Cowboys when he needed to get first downs? Oh, can one man not do it all by himself? He needs others to help? Hmm.. It's going to be a long offseason if we have to put up with this crap for 6 months.
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:46 PM   #35
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When was the last time we had a back run for 1300 yards? I see no reason to trade Portis. I can see some complaints about him, none of them tradeworthy!
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:52 PM   #36
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With an improved line in front of him next year, a year in the system under his belt, and some modifications to the running game Portis could easily recapture some of his explosive play and go for 1500+ yards and double-digit scores.

Portis is not a problem that needs fixing in the least bit, in fact I hope he's our back for the next 7 years.

Betts looks like a solid backup/spot starter, but let's not get out of control here. He had a nice day against a flat out bad Minnesota defense. That's not going to impress me enough to say we should trade our franchise RB.

That would be like the Colts thinking they could trade Manning after their rookie backup QB came in and played well today. It's nonsense and not even worth talking about at length.
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Old 01-02-2005, 10:37 PM   #37
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You don't pay a guy Portis-type money and not start him.

You don't say we have too much inconsistency and make a move like that.

You don't look at one game against the worst defense in the league and make the guy a starter for running well.
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Old 01-02-2005, 10:52 PM   #38
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Portis is the man and at the end will hold all redskin rushing records
betts did have a nice game though
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:23 AM   #39
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I've noticed several occasions where he stops his legs when he's wrapped up, good runners can break tackles. I see him hit piles and go backwards. I've never seen him step out of a pile and make a decent gain.
Are you blind, or did you not watch the fucking game? He broke tons of tackles and never stopped. For Christsakes, he got hit 5 yards shy of a first down and bullied his way for the first. Has Portis done that against anybody? No. If Portis doesn't have an open lane to run, he can't do shit.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:16 AM   #40
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When was the last time we had a back run for 1300 yards?
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:20 AM   #41
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Good news! We have Portis AND Betts AND Gibbs!
Yep! There is no doubt that Portis is our number one back, but having Betts giving Portis a breather and stepping up if Portis is injuried is definitely a plus for us! I think it's very valuable for us to keep Betts.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:21 AM   #42
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Might i remind everyone that Betts run on minnosota, and everybody runs on vikings.

Hehehe....not Rock Cartwright!
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Old 01-03-2005, 04:05 AM   #43
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Portis is staying here. It is crazy to consider trading him even Champ. Let Champ sink in the Denver snow. He shoulda stayed in DC under Gibbs and Williams, but he wanted out, so let him go. Portis is a great back and I think he has a great future here behind Joe Gibbs. Portis however is used to playing AFC ball where you run your burst of 3-5 secs and take a dive. He gives up to easy as he seems to fall down or dive once he's exhausted his 1 hole. Ofcourse he doesn't do this every play but I would say 80% of them. Watch the tapes. He rather cut back into a dive than run toward it. In a previous post I mentioned Joe Washington. He wasn't afraid to give up his body, much like an LC or Thrash or Taylor, Smoot, etc. Portis will learn to work with Gibbs and vice versa. We are witnessing a change here in DC. A return to glory. So all you bandwagoning bitches calling for portis' or gibbs' head should join a current 2k4/2k5 playoff teams fansite. Cause this one if for real believers!
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Old 01-03-2005, 07:33 AM   #44
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luxor - you're quick to call people "bandwagon bitches." I promise you many people who may have joined the Gibbs bandwagon aren't on it anymore. I haven't heard for a single person asking for Gibbs to be fired, and I'd love for you to find a post to prove me wrong. I think trading Portis is silly, but there is a little room to criticize portis, but I think his main problem is he's having to totally change his running style, I'd like to see them use a more Denver-esque system, but we shall see.
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Old 01-03-2005, 09:15 AM   #45
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Betts has been running pretty good, not just only against Minnesota. I will say he probably had his best game today.
Ok let me remind everybody here that there were some serious calls to get rid of Betts after the Ravens game. He seemed to have missed a block that allowed Ed Reed in for a Sack and a fumber return for a TD. Betts is servicable but please do not kid yourself as Portis is our starting back and should be cause he is BETTER. He blocks, catches well and runs even better.
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