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Old 01-02-2005, 10:11 PM   #16
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disagree, we need a DE, ITS A MUST!!!

we pass it up every year, and there is several out there waiting to get drafted.

first i would like to trade down and get a good 4th for 5th rounder extra, maybe squeez a 3rd in.
second option is to use what we have, and the names should be on the table:

E. James
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Old 01-02-2005, 10:30 PM   #17
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Worring signs comming out in the press about Smoot, Samuels and Gardner.

I liked Gardner but we would make a saving against the cap and be able to give a PS like Scott Colman (sp) a shot of making the roster . Behind Gardner we have McCants, who may be gone, Taylor and Trash both of who should be ahead of Gardner right now. That said i seriously do not want to go after Williams if avaialable. We have drafted a WR with our top pick in Gardner, Taylor and effectivly Coles. If we have a chance trade down.
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:36 AM   #18
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disagree, we need a DE, ITS A MUST!!!

we pass it up every year, and there is several out there waiting to get drafted.

first i would like to trade down and get a good 4th for 5th rounder extra, maybe squeez a 3rd in.
second option is to use what we have, and the names should be on the table:

E. James
D. Pollack
M. Kiwankia
M. Spears
D. Cody
Why is DE a must? didnt we end up #2 with the ones we have? and with daniels out most of the season.
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:43 AM   #19
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Why is DE a must? didnt we end up #2 with the ones we have? and with daniels out most of the season.
We did, but the lack of passrush at times of 3rd and longs killed us at times this season. They were exellent against the run, dont get me wrong there, and I'm happy with the play, but they just dont generate a passrush if they dont have help from blitzing.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:14 AM   #20
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I think the Skins need to get rid of Bowen, Morton, Kozlowski (worst TE ever), and Raymer. That's it. Start Clark because he's way better than whack ass Bowen. I say keep our receivers and add a bunch of bodies to fight it out with them in the preseason. They need to draft a DE in the first round.

I agree with Morton, Kozlowski, and Raymer, but not Bowen. I think Bowen was doing a pretty decent job before he got hurt.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:25 AM   #21
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We did, but the lack of passrush at times of 3rd and longs killed us at times this season. They were exellent against the run, dont get me wrong there, and I'm happy with the play, but they just dont generate a passrush if they dont have help from blitzing.
i agree, but that doesnt make it a MUST. i think it would be very nice to draft a DE in the first round, but we certainly arent doomed if we dont. that is how i interpret a must.
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Old 01-03-2005, 05:10 AM   #22
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i agree, but that doesnt make it a MUST. i think it would be very nice to draft a DE in the first round, but we certainly arent doomed if we dont. that is how i interpret a must.
its a must hands down, we need to get a decent pass rush with out having to blitz as much. so its a must we FINALLY get it done. im tired of the over paid DL we get to get hurt or suck for years. ex: big flabby and suckiefield
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Old 01-03-2005, 05:16 AM   #23
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oh yeah, its a must because WE HAVENT HAD A DECENT PASS RUSH FROM OUR FRONT FOUR IN OVER A DECADE, AND WE DIDNT REALLY HAVE ONE PERIOD TIL THIS SEASON. but if we had a DE that gave a constant pass rush this season, we would have been unstoppable. add a speed rusher DE with clemons, arrington, washington, and along side griffin..... wooooooooo damn we would kill, and definitely keep opponets on their heels.
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Old 01-03-2005, 05:25 AM   #24
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Yeah it wouldnt hurt us to have a DE that could rush with great speed!!!
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:45 AM   #25
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Matt Roth- DE - IOWA HAWKEYES

There is our DE. Ok, so I am biased since I am a huge Hawkeye fan. I seriously think with this draft we should consider trading down, draft for some depth at OL DL and CB. If we get lucky Bugel will find us some diamond in the rough center. I agree that we should resign Smoot, but at a reasonable price. I agree with Drift Reality's roster. We only need two, maybe three new starters.
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:47 AM   #26
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We need a good DE and a TE for the offense and we'll be just fine.
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:57 AM   #27
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Matt Bowen is a decent safety in run support and he can blitz, but I hate seeing him in pass coverage. I, personally, felt that last season with Ohelete and Bowen starting we had the worst starting safeties in football. I think Ryan Clark should, at the very least, take over as the starter. I just don't like Bowen, I thought I would, but he's been unimpressive as a starter. He was beaten very badly in the Giants game this year and Keyshawn beat him for one of his few touchdowns last season.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:00 AM   #28
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What you have to remember about Bowen in that season is that he wasn't playing the position that was most suited for him. This year before his injury he was and playing it pretty well. I agree I don't think he's the best at coverage, but I felt he was impressive with the Blitz and especially his tackling.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:01 AM   #29
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Bowen is definitely worth keeping around for depth and his blitzing abilities. He seemed to be fitting in nicely in Williams' attacking style of D.
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I loved Sam Shade because he was good at everything that Bowen is and people wanted to crucify me for saying that Ohelete shouldn't start. I like Bowen's energy and I would like him as a backup, I just don't think he should start. I think he could be like a way better version of Todd Franz and that would be fine.

BTW, Bowen isn't nearly as good as Sam Shade was.
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