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Old 08-27-2011, 11:47 AM   #76
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)

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I think Gtripp has more of a personal issue and hatred against Hall, and it's starting to lash out.

Hall plays great, and he's a great playmaker in the NFL. How many other Redskins have taken INT's back to the house since Sean Taylor? I'm thankful he is here, and he has his good and bad moments, but in the NFL today. There isn't one DB that doesn't have a breakdown in coverage or something a few times a year.
I can't speak to Gtripp's personal issue or possible hatred against Hall.....however he is right that Hall does put himself before team in his on field play.

I'm not even referring to the incident after the TD. You are 100% correct, Hall is a great playmaker.....however he also gives up a great deal of plays too and is a poor tackler. Nothing has changed with Hall over the years, he is who he is. Unfortunately we're a bit thin at CB and Hall is our # 1.
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I can't speak to Gtripp's personal issue or possible hatred against Hall.....however he is right that Hall does put himself before team in his on field play.

I'm not even referring to the incident after the TD. You are 100% correct, Hall is a great playmaker.....however he also gives up a great deal of plays too and is a poor tackler. Nothing has changed with Hall over the years, he is who he is. Unfortunately we're a bit thin at CB and Hall is our # 1.
I agree 100%. Nice post Sammy.
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)

I don't agree. I think Hall is a great tackler, and he forces a lot of fumbles going for the ball in certain situations. He basically won the game for us against Dallas, and Chicago last year.

How many CB's can say that?
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I've watch D. Hall since HS and a great tackler he's not.

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Yeah, I hate to sound cliche but it is preseason and that shit's just going to happen. At the end of the day, save three or four corners in the entire NFL, give me D.Hall any day of the week.
I'd take these before Hall, any day of the week and twice on Sunday:

Nnamdi, Woodson, Revis, McCourty, A. Samuel, DRC, T. Newman, Jammer, Grimes (ATL), P. Peterson, Trufant, Champ, B. Flowers, Finnegan, R. Mathis, Taylor & McFadden (PIT), Haden,

Probably would take V. Davis, C. Rogers (yes, I said it). and a few others too.

Hall isn't a "shut-down" corner. Hall makes plays, but gives up a ton of plays that more solid CBs don't give up.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:43 PM   #81
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Keim's analysis is always really good -- got to clean up those penalties and the point about Gruden also raving about Beck is an interesting turn of events.
Yeah! I think John Keim is one of the best in the area. His comments on the scoring drive before halftime led by Grossman makes you wish he could be remotely close to that type consistency on a regular basis, if he could then perhaps his reputation wouldn't suffer the hits it has over the years.

The discouraging thing about Rex is that he cannot seem to correct the wrongs about his game...what you've seen in the past is what you'll continue to see in the future.
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I don't agree. I think Hall is a great tackler, and he forces a lot of fumbles going for the ball in certain situations. He basically won the game for us against Dallas, and Chicago last year.

How many CB's can say that?
Hall is a sub-par tackler at best, piss-poor at worst. Remember the "Delhomme" incident

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That wasn't Vick, V. Young, Big Ben, Steve Young......it was JAKE DELHOMME.
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Please remember everyone get beat/drops a pass/fumbles/commits a foul everyonce and awhile.
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Hall is a sub-par tackler at best, piss-poor at worst. Remember the "Delhomme" incident

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That wasn't Vick, V. Young, Big Ben, Steve Young......it was JAKE DELHOMME.
That was one situation. It's like me saying that Cofield is weak b/c Ricky Williams knocked him down at the Ravens game. I do think is a bit ridiculous to call him a great tackler, but I wouldn't sub-par either. In 2010 he had 95 tackles, that was 3rd in the team behind London and Rocky.
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Please remember everyone get beat/drops a pass/fumbles/commits a foul everyonce and awhile.
You would think people would keep this in mind, but not with a guy like Hall. People will bitch about him no matter what.
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)

You guys pull out one incident on a guy and that automatically makes him a poor tackler?

That's like saying Sean Taylor was a poor tackler because he got run over and stepped on from that Wilson guy from WVU? Who didn't even get drafted by any team or make it past college.

Merriman is a bad pass rusher because he got stone walled by Jones-Drew

Flacco is a bad QB because he threw 4 INT's in his first game last year?

You can't label someone something because of one incident, that's totally ludicrous. Hall tackles well for a cornerback and he is what he is. He'll give up plays trying to make big ones, but most of the time he makes more plays then he gives up. He was 3rd ont he team in tackles last year with almost 100 tackles.
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)

its not one incident with D Hall, though feel free to scour the youtube for highlights of his awesome tackling.

I'm with SS33 on this, he speaks 100% truth here I agree with his description and his CB wishlist.
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I can't speak to Gtripp's personal issue or possible hatred against Hall.....however he is right that Hall does put himself before team in his on field play.

I'm not even referring to the incident after the TD. You are 100% correct, Hall is a great playmaker.....however he also gives up a great deal of plays too and is a poor tackler. Nothing has changed with Hall over the years, he is who he is. Unfortunately we're a bit thin at CB and Hall is our # 1.
I think this is correct, but we're not talking about a situation like TO or Randy Moss at their worst. Honestly, I wish his attitude would change, but you have to trust Mike Shanahan's ability to keep the team disciplined. My thinking is if Shanahan doesn't think it is an issue, then it isn't an issue.
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That was one situation. It's like me saying that Cofield is weak b/c Ricky Williams knocked him down at the Ravens game. I do think is a bit ridiculous to call him a great tackler, but I wouldn't sub-par either. In 2010 he had 95 tackles, that was 3rd in the team behind London and Rocky.
That was more of an indictment of our terrible DL in 2010 rather than a display of Hall's superior tackling.
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That was more of an indictment of our terrible DL in 2010 rather than a display of Hall's superior tackling.
And I never said he was a superior tackler, but I would imagine that you can't be a piss poor tackler and be third in tackles on any team.
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