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Old 08-26-2011, 11:57 AM   #46
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i know kentwan balmer was out there but the panthers just scooped him up the other day
hes not good anyway, wouldve been a body I guess
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:58 AM   #47
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Just be glad it wasn't the offensive line. At least there is some quality depth and other options out there defensively.

I don't think it makes a difference whether this happened in the preseason or early in the regular season. Sucks either way, but eliminating the preseason and playing 18 regular season games only means that your starters are more vulnerable in those early games (more than they would be in preseason games) as they will be playing the whole game rather than a quarter, two quarters, etc.

Tough loss - I'd be ok with Phillip Daniels coming in for depth.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:03 PM   #48
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Coming from somebody that has torn multiple acls and even more ligaments, I feel like I've become pretty educated on this matter. I knew it was a torn acl the moment it happened. This had nothing to do with pre-season. How easily it happened shows us his knee was a ticking time bomb. He was going to tear it eventually, better sooner than later.

Yeah thats the thing that stood out to me the most. It seemed like his knee just went out on him for no reason. Not sure what you mean when you say better sooner then later, can a repaired acl ever be stronger then a non repaired one?
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:04 PM   #49
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If this happened week 1 or 2 it wouldn't be any different.

At least it's early enough where he'll have enough time to properly rehab it.
You're right, he would still miss just about the whole season either way. But it just sucks to lose guys in meaningless games. I just hate it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:04 PM   #50
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Major bummer, but I bet he will be back better then ever next year... one year off of rehab and lifting should have this guy looking like a stud, and he already was making an impact with just a couple weeks of trainig, so my guess is he will be fine.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:05 PM   #51
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I wonder if this also means Alexander may line up sometimes at DE, perhaps even Orakpo

Daniels makes the most sense at this point though
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:07 PM   #52
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I don't want daniels back here! youth! I want youth!
Quick, let's find a 300-lbs. 15-year old and suit him up! LOL.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:09 PM   #53
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The dude is DeJuan Blair. I don't actually follow pro basketball; I found out because I was trying to get more info on Josh Gorges, who played hockey without an ACL for about 7 years with the help of a special brace.

Hines Ward is missing the acl in his left knee. I think with Bair and Ward they say that since the injuries happened while they were still growing that other muscles and ligaments adapted to make up for the loss of the acl. Still crazy to think a nba big man can be running around without both of his acl's. Obviously at any age your body is gonna adapt but the younger the better.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:11 PM   #54
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F*ck the preseason. If you're going to tear an ACL, wouldn't you rather it happen in the regular season?

Should have reduced the preseason by 2, expanded to 18 regular season games, and started training camp earlier with an offsetting reduction in spring OTAs.
This....or close to it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:14 PM   #55
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Yeah thats the thing that stood out to me the most. It seemed like his knee just went out on him for no reason. Not sure what you mean when you say better sooner then later, can a repaired acl ever be stronger then a non repaired one?
I meant that it was going to happen this season. Better that he has more time to recover for next year.

And simply put, no it can't be stronger than the repaired one (not like tommy john surgery). You can rehab it to a stance in where it was like you never had surgery, but even that is not 100%. Some bodies just don't respond very well to new acls (you can still play, but you just won't be able to do everything you could before your acl surgery), some bodies take it in like its the original. Alot of it has to do with the rehab also. Time will tell us how Jenkins responds.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:15 PM   #56
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If this happened week 1 or 2 it wouldn't be any different.

At least it's early enough where he'll have enough time to properly rehab it.
if if if if
what if
what if
what if

You can play this crystal ball game all day....
The fact is that he blew out his knee in a come that does not count.
Player evaluation needs to come in a different form.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:21 PM   #57
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if if if if
what if
what if
what if

You can play this crystal ball game all day....
The fact is that he blew out his knee in a come that does not count.
Player evaluation needs to come in a different form.
?? I dont get your point at all. mattyk was saying it does not matter if it happened in a regular season early on or the pre-season. I dont think he was trying to use anything for player evaluation.
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if if if if
what if
what if
what if

You can play this crystal ball game all day....
The fact is that he blew out his knee in a come that does not count.
Player evaluation needs to come in a different form.

And what form of player evaluation does your crystal ball suggest?
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:27 PM   #59
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Yeah thats the thing that stood out to me the most. It seemed like his knee just went out on him for no reason. Not sure what you mean when you say better sooner then later, can a repaired acl ever be stronger then a non repaired one?
My buddy who I played football with in high school tore his ACL and had a piece of his hamstring used to repair it. The doctor told him eventually it should be stronger than it was before........ well he tore that ACL AGAIN 2-3 years later when we were playing flag football. I guess you can't know for sure until you're fully recovered. Or I'm just bad luck, I was there for both tears ...
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:33 PM   #60
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My buddy who I played football with in high school tore his ACL and had a piece of his hamstring used to repair it. The doctor told him eventually it should be stronger than it was before........ well he tore that ACL AGAIN 2-3 years later when we were playing flag football. I guess you can't know for sure until you're fully recovered. Or I'm just bad luck, I was there for both tears ...

Stay away from JJ.

Yeah ive had a bad break to some bones that needed 2 surgeries. One doctor told me i will be stronger when healed because of the plates and screws and the other doctor told me im forever compromised. I feel unless you have a doctor thats just straight up with you they will tell you things you want to hear.
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