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Old 09-05-2011, 01:30 AM   #31
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Re: Report: Peyton Manning Needs 2nd Neck Surgery

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For all the love the Colts front office gets, surprised they have never really been called out for not truly preparing for the Peyton might not play anymore.
Great point, that's definitely right. Matty might be right in that it could bring more problems, ala what the Packers had with Favre waffling on retirement and them turning the team over to Rodgers, but all the same that's a good problem to have. I'd rather have that problem than the "pick the lesser of two evils at QB" problem we seem to have now.

As for the Colts entering the "suck for Luck" campaign, that remains to be seen how they play without Peyton. But it would appear it's time for the Colts to start planning for a future without Peyton because it looks like at some point that his neck problems might prevent him from playing as long as he wants to. He might want to think about what his future might be like post football with serious neck problems.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:45 AM   #32
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Re: Report: Peyton Manning Needs 2nd Neck Surgery

Manning isn't leaving football(as a player) like this ....not yet. As for the contract flak for what ,this guy took "less" money to keep other players around.Kerry Collins isn't the answer but it's not a bad sub.8-8 for the Colts
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:20 AM   #33
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Wow. Huge loss for Indy. They're just an averaged team w/out him.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:51 AM   #34
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Yes. For example, just how much money can they sink into the QB position? Given Manning's salary, to have a high quality backup is to have a troubled cap situation.
True. But when Brady retires, does anyone think N.E. will suck? They won't be as good, but no one (assuming current FO is intact) thinks they will start tanking.
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:51 AM   #35
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Thats too bad.....but on the Luck side of things......I'd rather he go to Indy than to an NFC team.
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:08 PM   #36
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For all the love the Colts front office gets, surprised they have never really been called out for not truly preparing for the Peyton might not play anymore.
Yeah, they could've pull a NE and get a later round prospect with promising talent (i.e. Mallet).
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Well.....I guess they're dancing in the street in Houston......
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:13 PM   #38
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What flack can you give Peyton Manning?

If he can't play anymore he would probably give the money back or donate it to charity.



Even though I will always give great respect to Peyton......Tom Brady is better.

Nobody pay attention to that statement. That's just for Gtripp.

I can't very well compliment Manning publicly without such disclaimer.
if he signed the contract and the Colts can't void it. Then he can't just give the money back. The colts will have to take the cap hit and attempt to collect injury insurance, if they have any, for the bonus. Could kill the colts for a few years having to take that large of a hit.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:15 PM   #39
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No need. Suck for Luck and profit from perfect timing!!!
diffrent sport, but the Spurs lost David Robinson due to injury and fell into the first pick of the draft which they used to get Tim Duncan and a few championships.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:18 PM   #40
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I'm going to go out on a limb here but I predict Houston will mop the floor with Indy in week 1 if the Colts don't have Manning.
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I picked Manning in my FF league, im hoping this 2nd neck surgery thing is just a rumor, the Colts better hope so too, as they will be lucky to win 5 games without him.

I already planned on sitting him the first 2 games, so I hope Kolb is settled and relaxed and ready to fire passes to Fitzgerald all day long.
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I can see Jim Cadwell now flippen through the Tony Dungy strategy playbook and seeing a blank page with big block letters "Oh Sh*t!!!" under the heading what to do if Peyton goes down.

The Colts shoulda been more prepared for this possibility, its no secret Peyton was complaining about his neck during the lockout. Cadwell is gonna have a hardtime and with little to no running game to lean on makes it tougher.

Houston has a great opportunity now, blood is in the water and they better take advantage of it.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:38 PM   #43
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Colts just announced that Manning will stop practicing, don't know when he'll be back.
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I've read that link a few times now on ESPN. I am going to attempt to give my take on it, hopefully to clear a few things up because there are alot of rumors flying right now. I am not a professional athlete, but i have had a few surgeries in my lifetime, one of which has really affected my other passion besides football, Mixed Martial Arts. I can kind of relate to Peyton in terms of what this surgery/recover is doing to him even though his heart and mind is on his sport.

My thoughts are this: There is no second surgery planned on Peyton because at this poin the doctors are not certain that a 2nd surgery will make things any better than the 1st. Peyton is also complaining of a sore back, and he did not previously have back injuries. It is quite possible that he is dealing with some nerve damage that may have been caused by the surgery, or possibly was not fully resolved from the surgery. At the time of his surgery in May, he had two neck surgeries within 15 months, and if he is still having lingering nerve damage now, it may never fully go away.

The article spells out in clear language that Peyton's arm strength is not even close to what it was before the surgery, and it is certainly not up to NFL standards. This is possibly the most telling fact that Peyton may be physically done. The article doesn't say that his arm strength is "not yet" returned, but rather that it "plateaued". As in saying it is as good as it's going to be.

My guess is that peyton may take a few more weeks to see if his arm strength returns, but if it doesnt, i think he will do the classy thing and not risk his life or future health to try and continue to play football on a bad arm/neck/back. It's obvious his surgery was life changing. Peyton has a great football mind and I'm sure he will get involved right away, probably with the colts, in some other capacity.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here but I predict Houston will mop the floor with Indy in week 1 if the Colts don't have Manning.
3-12 isn't out of the question. I see them only having a chance against Cincy, Carolina, and Jacksonville.

The way they're built, it's all around Manning. Their D is built to just limit the score juuuuust enough so the offense's 21+ points is enough to win. Their running game is just to "keep the D honest".
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