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Old 09-15-2011, 05:47 PM   #136
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Redskins Notes: Trent 'pretty good' last week
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:36 PM   #137
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True, this is the Smackdown thread but I'm the anti-Smackdown. My defense is of the other available top OL in Trent's class, the Skins were either going with Trent or Okung. And given Okung's ankle problems, I think the Skins got it right and we should be a little more patient.

To clarify, the interior three didn't begin the 2010 season as starters at their respective positions, so while they are not new Redskins, they are starting the season as a unit for the first time.



This doesnt mean jack shit when it comes to getting completely blown the **** up by essentially a rookie pass rusher (Albeit a physical freak ). Sorry, but for the 4th pick in an NFL draft, you better step your game up, and fast. None of this waiting around, give him time, patience sh!t. We have done that enough with previous picks, and they have never worked out. I think he can be a solid piece for years to come, but I would like to see a better showing from him. He isnt a rook anymore. Get it together Trent. You can be great.
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:01 PM   #138
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After watching the game again last night, which is the first time ever going back to re-watch a game because I just recently upgraded to DVR, I will join the Doughty bashing bandwagon. Holy crap he's the antithesis of an impact player!!! Way too slow and actually not great at reading plays. On at least a few occasions I saw other guys on defense redirect Doughty because he was evidently out of position (before the snap). And obviously he's too slow to recover from being out of position at the beginning of the play. Considering Landry's iffy injury status I'm kinda shocked we haven't signed another SS. Thoughts on this? Is there another SS on the roster anyone is excited about?

Also, Hightower is not our answer at running back. Again he's not an impact player as in there's no explosiveness there and he doesn't break many tackles. I hope the plan is to use him up early in the season while working Helu and maybe Torain in more and more. My guess is the Shanahan's have Hightower in to protect Rex for the time being as Helu doesn't have any experience protecting a QB at this level and my memory is Torain struggled mightily. C'mon Helu...get on it!!!
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After watching the game again last night, which is the first time ever going back to re-watch a game because I just recently upgraded to DVR, I will join the Doughty bashing bandwagon. Holy crap he's the antithesis of an impact player!!! Way too slow and actually not great at reading plays. On at least a few occasions I saw other guys on defense redirect Doughty because he was evidently out of position (before the snap). And obviously he's too slow to recover from being out of position at the beginning of the play. Considering Landry's iffy injury status I'm kinda shocked we haven't signed another SS. Thoughts on this? Is there another SS on the roster anyone is excited about?

Also, Hightower is not our answer at running back. Again he's not an impact player as in there's no explosiveness there and he doesn't break many tackles. I hope the plan is to use him up early in the season while working Helu and maybe Torain in more and more. My guess is the Shanahan's have Hightower in to protect Rex for the time being as Helu doesn't have any experience protecting a QB at this level and my memory is Torain struggled mightily. C'mon Helu...get on it!!!
Huh? Hightower has looked great so far this year. Yeah his performance against the Giants wasn't strong, but the Giants never give up A LOT of 100 yard performances against them. Hightower actually started to get less yards per carry in the 2nd half after the Giants made adjustments.

In the NFL now there is no ANSWER at RB. To have 2-3 great running backs on your roster is a blessing, and I believe we have 3 guys who will be great.
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1 game and the verdict is in on Tim, cool...
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:46 AM   #141
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1 game and the verdict is in on Tim, cool...
He doesn't run for 100 yards every game.

He's not the answer.. DUH!

Yeah, being able to catch one handed passes over the middle, and pick up linebackers to protect the QB doesn't matter.
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:03 AM   #142
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Yea I find that to be a foolish assessment as usual
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:41 AM   #143
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I just read all 150 posts...and most has obviously been covered....

I have 2 points not mentioned:

1. Hightower was likely in all game due to his pass blocking skills, Helu is a rookie and Torain has a hand injury and the oline was struggling.

2. Our new wonderful Center has major issues snapping the ball in shotgun formation...they are either slow rainbows or too high...if that doesn't get resolved in a couple weeks we will see sacks and fumbles. Rex did a great job handling the crazy snaps. A less experienced QB would have fumbled them, or rushed a pass for a pick or something.
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:30 PM   #144
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There were a handful of plays where Hightower had the opportunity to break out for long yardage i.e. these would have been TDs for a handful of RBs in the league.

If you watch/rewatch the game it's also easy to see why Tim had fumble issues in the past...he still carries the pigskin like a loaf of bread. As the Zen master says...we'll see. But I doubt he's getting the majority of carries by the 2nd half of the season i.e. hopefully the o-line gels and pass protect better and Helu comes in for some huge games.
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