Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins)

Ruhskins · 09-11-2011, 11:21 PM

Doughty may be subpar in coverage but the guy led all players with 11 tackles. He had two noticeable bad plays...the long pass to Nicks and he didn't provide support when Fletch got beat by the G-men TE. He's a backup and plays like one, things will be better once LL gets in the mix, but people need to stop acting like having him out there is the end of the world. It really isn't...pretty soon he'll be back to being a backup and ST player.

warriorzpath · 09-11-2011, 11:21 PM

I got to say when grossman lost that fumble, I thought that it was the same ol redskins from the past few years.

Mechanix544 · 09-11-2011, 11:26 PM

totally stoked about this win!!!!!!

braves on the warpath to a 16-0 season, and BEYOND!!~!!!!!!

warriorzpath · 09-11-2011, 11:27 PM

Sometimes fans can take having players like doughty for granted. Like when a few years ago tomilson stiffed armed Ryan Clark to break the game open against the redskins for a long td. Everyone said he sucked and to get rid of him. He turned out to be a good role player for the steelers super bowl teams. And doughtys a backup.

Meks · 09-11-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Over the long haul we are not going to get it done unless the running game improves dramatically. Counting on Rex or Beck to win the game through the air every week is a recipe for disappointment.

The defensive backfield needs to improve its communication and cohesion.

Bowen needs to raise the intensity of his pass rush.

Everyone on the offensive line had their moments of suck, as SmootSmack indicated. But T.Williams prefaced a sucky game today with a sucky preseason - it wasn't just one game. And we didn't draft him at #4 overall to make excuses regarding Pierre-Paul's abilities. Everyone on the o-line needs to raise their level of play but especially Trent.

Still, we're in first place and have broken the Giants hex at least temporarily. It was a good day.

Secondary will not be cohesive without landry. .. other than thatbthey played a HELL .. of a game so I hafta disagree there...

O.line, yes, needs to improve I'm pass pro and run blocking.. but I fear the playcalling was getting predictable in that regard ..

Pass rush I thought was much improved even after last time we saw them.and Bowen had a huge sack ... so I dunno pressure was there today and our corners played verybwell because of it ...

Overall great shut them the F down in the 2nd half... blocked field goal gave me chills and memories of Vincent/Taylor against the cowgirls... being there live feeling the energy of this team and fans... we are gonna find ways to win games. IMO that's all that's gonna matter, this team is READY, to step up and find ways to win as we've always wanted...

GTripp0012 · 09-11-2011, 11:58 PM

The safety play was painful to watch. Atogwe did what he's pretty much done his whole career: he plays most of his game off the television feed. But that cover two out route that Manning got complete to Manningham under duress was far too easy of a throw. A good safety breaks up that pass pretty often.

Doughty was Doughty. Happy to have him, but if he's in the starting lineup, the offensive coordinator knows where to go on the field in the passing game.

Getting Landry back will give the Redskins an impact player at the position, but he won't fix the weakness at the position.

Dirtbag59 · 09-12-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I like the Smack-Studs combo. It is good to critique both positives and negatives since no game is either perfect on one extreme or lacking in positives on the other.

I predict market saturation. Coming next week; Dirt's bag o' dirt, Matty's Caddies, Ruh the Day, Tripp's Rips, Quakes Shakes.

GTripp0012 · 09-12-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I predict market saturation. Coming next week; Dirt's bag o' dirt, Matty's Caddies, Ruh the Day, Tripp's Rips, Quakes Shakes.

All need to happen.

SmootSmack · 09-12-2011, 12:22 AM

When I retire, I'm passing the throne to Ruhskins...just because I like the title Ruh the Day

warriorzpath · 09-12-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Over the long haul we are not going to get it done unless the running game improves dramatically. Counting on Rex or Beck to win the game through the air every week is a recipe for disappointment.

The defensive backfield needs to improve its communication and cohesion.

Bowen needs to raise the intensity of his pass rush.

Everyone on the offensive line had their moments of suck, as SmootSmack indicated. But T.Williams prefaced a sucky game today with a sucky preseason - it wasn't just one game. And we didn't draft him at #4 overall to make excuses regarding Pierre-Paul's abilities. Everyone on the o-line needs to raise their level of play but especially Trent.

I agree that the offensive line needs to play better than how they did in the second half, but the giants were bringing a lot of guys in both passing and rushing blitzes. I'm not trying to excuse their play because other teams will definitely try some of this too since it was somewhat successful. But I'm hoping that most this may be handled in gameplanning and adjustments in the upcoming weeks.

As for the secondary, I think I'm not as down on them as others. I still think it's a huge improvement from last year. I think holding the giants, who have pretty much owned the redskins, to 14 points is pretty good.

WilbursHomie · 09-12-2011, 12:44 AM

Today we finally looked like a team that will naturally get better as they get older. Sure we didn't look like a super bowl team, but we looked like pro's and played like a team that was all on the same page. Win or Lose, and we will have some bad losses I promise, it looks like there's Pro football back in DC. FINALLY! Dirty 30 is gonna reinvent the concussion when he gets back.

skinsfanthru&thru · 09-12-2011, 12:51 AM

When it comes to the running game, the team seemed to have all of it's success when we ran a 2-back set with Young leading the way whereas all of the oneback stretch plays almost always only gained a yard or two or even lost yardage.

The drops suck as did Gaffney not making a better effort to stay in bounds on that one catch that eventually got ruled out, but they also made some nice catches and ran great routes. Seeing Davis do what he did today makes me even more excited to see the team having both him and Cooley on the field together more and more as Cooley gets healthier.

Overall a great team win especially the effort given in the second half and it was absolutely freakin awesome seeing a couple of the rookies making their presence known right out of the gate.

Bucket · 09-12-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I predict market saturation. Coming next week; Dirt's bag o' dirt, Matty's Caddies, Ruh the Day, Tripp's Rips, Quakes Shakes.

LOL.. I saw this after I made my thread.

ethat001 · 09-12-2011, 01:05 AM

Great game, feels wonderful to beat the Giants (or anyone for that matter).

Here's the question. How long does it take for a left tackle to get up to speed? Here's what Ryan Clady did his first two years:

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Clady finished third in voting behind Matt Ryan and Chris Johnson for the 2008 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year Award.[9] He was the only offensive lineman to receive any votes. Clady started every game during the 2008 NFL season and gave up just a half of a sack while committing only three penalties.[10]

After the Broncos' October 4, 2009 victory over the Dallas Cowboys, Clady set a new NFL record for consecutive games to start a career without giving up a full sack. Through 20 games, he has surrendered only one half of a sack.[13]

So my point is, it is just one game, and too early to say anything about TW. But he has looked overmatched repeatedly over the past year and preseason/week 1. We should give him the benefit of the doubt, but it concerns me. Starting to wonder whether we need to switch him and J.Brown, and/or draft a new LT. Again, I'll give him the entire year to settle into his role first...

rbanerjee23 · 09-12-2011, 01:18 AM

Problem with Williams is, and this was the knock coming out of college, was that he was so good that he never had to work. That's not going to fly in the NFL -- his reports in camp were that he would get beaten and then he would step up and stop the guy. There is no sense of urgency, no desire to be the absolute best game in and game out which is kind of a concern.

09-11-2011, 11:21 PM	#31
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) Doughty may be subpar in coverage but the guy led all players with 11 tackles. He had two noticeable bad plays...the long pass to Nicks and he didn't provide support when Fletch got beat by the G-men TE. He's a backup and plays like one, things will be better once LL gets in the mix, but people need to stop acting like having him out there is the end of the world. It really isn't...pretty soon he'll be back to being a backup and ST player. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

09-11-2011, 11:21 PM	#32
warriorzpath The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,394	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) I got to say when grossman lost that fumble, I thought that it was the same ol redskins from the past few years.

09-11-2011, 11:26 PM	#33
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,044	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) totally stoked about this win!!!!!! braves on the warpath to a 16-0 season, and BEYOND!!~!!!!!! __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

09-11-2011, 11:27 PM	#34
warriorzpath The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,394	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) Sometimes fans can take having players like doughty for granted. Like when a few years ago tomilson stiffed armed Ryan Clark to break the game open against the redskins for a long td. Everyone said he sucked and to get rid of him. He turned out to be a good role player for the steelers super bowl teams. And doughtys a backup. Last edited by warriorzpath; 09-11-2011 at 11:28 PM.

09-11-2011, 11:58 PM	#36
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) The safety play was painful to watch. Atogwe did what he's pretty much done his whole career: he plays most of his game off the television feed. But that cover two out route that Manning got complete to Manningham under duress was far too easy of a throw. A good safety breaks up that pass pretty often. Doughty was Doughty. Happy to have him, but if he's in the starting lineup, the offensive coordinator knows where to go on the field in the passing game. Getting Landry back will give the Redskins an impact player at the position, but he won't fix the weakness at the position. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

09-12-2011, 12:22 AM	#39
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,102	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) When I retire, I'm passing the throne to Ruhskins...just because I like the title Ruh the Day __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-12-2011, 12:44 AM	#41
WilbursHomie Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 316	Today we finally looked like a team that will naturally get better as they get older. Sure we didn't look like a super bowl team, but we looked like pro's and played like a team that was all on the same page. Win or Lose, and we will have some bad losses I promise, it looks like there's Pro football back in DC. FINALLY! Dirty 30 is gonna reinvent the concussion when he gets back.

09-12-2011, 12:51 AM	#42
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 32 Posts: 3,504	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) When it comes to the running game, the team seemed to have all of it's success when we ran a 2-back set with Young leading the way whereas all of the oneback stretch plays almost always only gained a yard or two or even lost yardage. The drops suck as did Gaffney not making a better effort to stay in bounds on that one catch that eventually got ruled out, but they also made some nice catches and ran great routes. Seeing Davis do what he did today makes me even more excited to see the team having both him and Cooley on the field together more and more as Cooley gets healthier. Overall a great team win especially the effort given in the second half and it was absolutely freakin awesome seeing a couple of the rookies making their presence known right out of the gate. __________________ "Ahhh, so you're stupid in 3 languages?"

09-12-2011, 01:18 AM	#45
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,320	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins) Problem with Williams is, and this was the knock coming out of college, was that he was so good that he never had to work. That's not going to fly in the NFL -- his reports in camp were that he would get beaten and then he would step up and stop the guy. There is no sense of urgency, no desire to be the absolute best game in and game out which is kind of a concern. __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

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