Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)

The Goat · 09-27-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

As much as I feel like Rex isn't the answer and really don't like him at QB, I just don't think benching him or even trying Beck out for 1 game is the answer. Rex (apparently) is getting comfortable with the coaches and like how the coaches trust him, bench him even for 1 game and that trust potentially goes out the window and the "F*** it, I'm going deep" Rex could be back in action, simply because he feels like he has to prove his worth. I mean did anyone really think we were gonna have a playoff team with Grossman at the helm? I mean maybe... but... At this point we just have to ride Rex out this season and pray that we can start building a franchise QB next season.

Agree w/ all this...but then why not try Beck for three or four reg season games? At this point aren't we just searching for the best backup?

skinsfaninok · 09-27-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

LOL, yeah it happens every year brother.

Just extra frustrating when the game was there to be won and we somehow allowed ourselves to lose it. It was a top to bottom disaster tho. Really cant put the blame on any one player or coach.

I would have liked to see the playcall mixed up a little more. The short pass to Hightower was effective but not on called enough. Is Torain a waterboy now?

Well it does but then again we have been bad for years also, I guess ATV is parked off road somewhere who knows and no doubt this game stings bcuz
A. It's Dallas and B. we should have won by at least 7.

skinsfaninok · 09-27-2011, 12:48 AM

My sig says it all thanks again Lotus

Ruhskins · 09-27-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Agree w/ all this...but then why not try Beck for three or four reg season games? At this point aren't we just searching for the best backup?

You need some type of continuity at QB. You do what you are suggesting when you are 2-9 and out of the playoff hunt. We are just three weeks into the season.

The Goat · 09-27-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

By the way, where the f*ck was Fred Davis tonight? The guy has back-to-back huge games and he is a non factor tonight? What went wrong?

Was wondering this myself, but then again we saw Cooley quite a bit more tonight, yes?

...I think Davis needs to be our primary TE.

over the mountain · 09-27-2011, 12:55 AM

the cowboys seemed to be guessin and jumpin the snap count correctly alot, ware did it on browns holding call .. on the flip side romo was able to get us to show our blitz alot. big difference btw romo and rex with their presnap abilities.

im not mad at the allout blitz on 3rd and 21 and the game in the balance as much as i am with the fact we put 7 d lineman with their hands in the dirt basically not even disguising it at all. it allowed romo to know what was coming and he knew he had to use his feet to buy more time from the get go.

i kinda a hall hatter to a degree but i cant even blame him for the dez catch since it was backyard football at that point. give dez moss anyone 5 seconds to run with 1 on 1 coverage and he'll get open enough.

bad game from rex, his arm looked bad n soft on certain throws and i dont trust him to make the right read or see a LB dropping back into coverage.

the boys playcalling was severely limited b/c romo couldnt throw the ball more than 20 yds, they basically gave us 4 10-15 yard sacks with those snaps, were not on the same page all night yet still won.

unbelievable. lots of blame but the boys correctly guessin the snap and us not disguising blitzes or even bothering to on 3rd and 21 is really pissing me off . . we need a qb to control the LOS, have hard n soft counts, force Ds to show their cards and make the reads accordingly..

Ruhskins · 09-27-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Was wondering this myself, but then again we saw Cooley quite a bit more tonight, yes?

...I think Davis needs to be our primary TE.

I think Davis needs to be our pass-catching TE and put Cooley back to the H-back position (like tonight). KS needs to figure out how to make them both productive in a game.

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

the cowboys seemed to be guessin and jumpin the snap count correctly alot, ware did it on browns holding call .. on the flip side romo was able to get us to show our blitz alot. big difference btw romo and rex with their presnap abilities.

im not mad at the allout blitz on 3rd and 21 and the game in the balance as much as i am with the fact we put 7 d lineman with their hands in the dirt basically not even disguising it at all. it allowed romo to know what was coming and he knew he had to use his feet to buy more time from the get go.

i kinda a hall hatter to a degree but i cant even blame him for the dez catch since it was backyard football at that point. give dez moss anyone 5 seconds to run with 1 on 1 coverage and he'll get open enough.

bad game from rex, his arm looked bad n soft on certain throws and i dont trust him to make the right read or see a LB dropping back into coverage.

the boys playcalling was severely limited b/c romo couldnt throw the ball more than 20 yds, they basically gave us 4 10-15 yard sacks with those snaps, were not on the same page all night yet still won.

unbelievable. lots of blame but the boys correctly guessin the snap and us not disguising blitzes or even bothering to on 3rd and 21 is really pissing me off . . we need a qb to control the LOS, have hard n soft counts, force Ds to show their cards and make the reads accordingly..

They were seriously offsides on some of those. Like the one where Ware completely gassed Jammal Brown and came around and sacked Grossman? Ware was past, Brown by time he was getting up from the crouch. I just can't believe he was guessing the snap count right, every single time. Maybe he was. Maybe he's that good.

GTripp0012 · 09-27-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Seriously? The cowboys have one of the worst offensive lines I've ever seen. Like Gruden said when have you ever seen 4 snaps blown like that? And Romo could hardly move lol.

The defense may have played hard but the calls out of Haslett are terrible. Unless Orakpo and Kerrigan both have dominant games (simultaneously) this is a suspect defense i.e. we'll get shredded by the top 5 to 10 offenses in the league.

If the offense either gets in the end zone or has a long drive at any point in the fourth quarter, this is a non-issue.

We definitely didn't get beat in the fourth quarter by a guy who could hardly move though. If that was actually the case, then you'd defend the 3rd and 21 call on those grounds. Romo bought the time to deliver the ball. Haslett didn't call a play that should have given Romo 5+ seconds to allow for downfield release.

SmootSmack · 09-27-2011, 01:01 AM

Hall is laying the smack down on Haslett's blitz call. He's frustrated and will apologize and/or retract tomorrow. But still...just stay quiet

skinsfaninok · 09-27-2011, 01:03 AM

Where was AA ?

over the mountain · 09-27-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If the offense either gets in the end zone or has a long drive at any point in the fourth quarter, this is a non-issue.

We definitely didn't get beat in the fourth quarter by a guy who could hardly move though. If that was actually the case, then you'd defend the 3rd and 21 call on those grounds. Romo bought the time to deliver the ball. Haslett didn't call a play that should have given Romo 5+ seconds to allow for downfield release.

haslett's call let romo know he was going to have to scramble back to get time though imo. romo knew he was going to have to buy time to deliver the ball before it was snapped. im so pissed about that

steve young made a salient point about the last play. as a qb in that situation you cant scramble to the side that would leave the hand holding the ball to the inside of the field and not know whats behind you. seems like alot to ask of a qb in that situaiton but i guess thats why he is in the HOF and rex is rex

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Where was AA ?

Had a hamstring injury. Austin was replacing him.

GTripp0012 · 09-27-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

haslett's call let romo know he was going to have to scramble back to get time though imo. romo knew he was going to have to buy time to deliver the ball before it was snapped. im so pissed about that

steve young made a salient point about the last play. as a qb in that situation you cant scramble to the side that would leave the hand holding the ball to the inside of the field and not know whats behind you. seems like alot to ask of a qb in that situaiton but i guess thats why he is in the HOF and rex is rex

Yeah, it did, but that's more of a Romo ability than a Haslett inability. It's a little of both though, I've already said that a zero-blitz in 3rd and 21 generally doesn't make a lot of sense given the risk-reward.

Rex knew that Spencer was closing, I think he just assumed he wasn't on top of him. And if J. Brown got in front of him even for a second, he wouldn't have been.

Rex is a turnover machine though. He got lucky on the sack-fumble forced by Ware that ESPN replays didn't show a clear Dallas recovery. That's the only reason that Garrett didn't challenge and win.

mooby · 09-27-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Game Recap;Espn.com

NEXT LEVEL: The Cowboys sent only three pass rushers on five of Rex Grossman's 41 dropbacks, but they made those rushes count. Grossman was just 1 of 4 for three yards, his lone interception and was also sacked on the game ending play against the Cowboys' three-man rush.

How weird/bad is it that when they blitzed, Grossman was effective, but when they sent 3 rushers is when they made it count? Come on man.

09-27-2011, 12:48 AM	#48
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,993	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys) My sig says it all thanks again Lotus __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

09-27-2011, 12:55 AM	#51
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,668	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys) the cowboys seemed to be guessin and jumpin the snap count correctly alot, ware did it on browns holding call .. on the flip side romo was able to get us to show our blitz alot. big difference btw romo and rex with their presnap abilities. im not mad at the allout blitz on 3rd and 21 and the game in the balance as much as i am with the fact we put 7 d lineman with their hands in the dirt basically not even disguising it at all. it allowed romo to know what was coming and he knew he had to use his feet to buy more time from the get go. i kinda a hall hatter to a degree but i cant even blame him for the dez catch since it was backyard football at that point. give dez moss anyone 5 seconds to run with 1 on 1 coverage and he'll get open enough. bad game from rex, his arm looked bad n soft on certain throws and i dont trust him to make the right read or see a LB dropping back into coverage. the boys playcalling was severely limited b/c romo couldnt throw the ball more than 20 yds, they basically gave us 4 10-15 yard sacks with those snaps, were not on the same page all night yet still won. unbelievable. lots of blame but the boys correctly guessin the snap and us not disguising blitzes or even bothering to on 3rd and 21 is really pissing me off . . we need a qb to control the LOS, have hard n soft counts, force Ds to show their cards and make the reads accordingly.. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

09-27-2011, 01:01 AM	#55
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,099	Hall is laying the smack down on Haslett's blitz call. He's frustrated and will apologize and/or retract tomorrow. But still...just stay quiet __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-27-2011, 01:03 AM	#56
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,993	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys) Where was AA ? __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

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