Who Can Lead This Team?

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 12:15 AM

I'm speaking offensively. I think we have plenty of defensive vets and leaders.

I touched on it briefly in the gameday thread, but it seems like we don't have anyone on the offense who can lead this team. Grossman just doesn't seem to have that IT factor that QB needs to have. Romo goes ape s*** on his players, which I think is a bit overkill, but he has that leader quality. As have other QB's I have seen. I look at Cam Newton and I see that leader quality in him, even as a rookie.

But Grossman... Just doesn't seem to have that leader quality. I feel he's inconsistent and has the tendency to choke under pressure. And I don't think Beck has it either. I just feel at this point, we're trying to put a band aid on a gaping wound which is our QB position.

So this begs the question, who's shoulders can this offense trust and lean on?

skinsfaninok · 09-27-2011, 12:17 AM

Well no one this season and honestly IDK about next year either because Rex will play good enough to make us a playoff contender IMO, yeah he's not great but he has his moments.. Lets just wash this game away and move on to STL

Chico23231 · 09-27-2011, 12:20 AM

The running game leads this offense. Hightowe/Helu/Torain?

Every good Shanny team has a good running game which is the engine for his offense. But when you have an arrogant f*cking son who f*cking thinks Rex grossman needs the ball in his hands a majority of the time and effectively kills any running attack you have, you might as well forfeit the f*cking game before it starts.

SmootSmack · 09-27-2011, 12:21 AM

Jonathan Crompton

GreekSkin · 09-27-2011, 12:21 AM

I really hate seeing threads like this 3 games into the season.

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

The running game leads this offense. Hightowe/Helu/Torain?

Every good Shanny team has a good running game which is the engine for his offense. But when you have an arrogant f*cking son who f*cking thinks Rex grossman needs the ball in his hands a majority of the time and effectively kills any running attack you have, you might as well forfeit the f*cking game before it starts.

It was like we were running an entirely different offensive scheme. 3 TEs? I know they had them out there for Ware, but it seems like that completely changed the face of this team. I mean I think because we don't have a QB, we have to lean on the running game. Putting the game mostly in the hands of an inconsistent QB is dicey to begin with. We need to keep the ball out of his hands as much as possible. Just seems like we got totally 1 dimensional all of a sudden and became. Pass, pass, pass. I like aggressive play calling, but not when it's stupidly aggressive.

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekSkin

I really hate seeing threads like this 3 games into the season.

This has been a problem since last season as well. Everyone blamed McNabb and then saying we didn't have the right team built around him. Alright. We started Grossman last season, built a team a somewhat better team and still can't seem to get the offense running on all cylinders. You must have blinders on if you think that there isn't a flow problem with the Skins.

vallin21 · 09-27-2011, 12:35 AM

Tim Hightower- AWESOME block against that #43! Great catch on 3rd and 5 setting up his TD. Didn't run the ball well but when he was in, he made plays, as did Helu.

IMO if Hightower plays well, we'll have a great chance to win.

Hog1 · 09-27-2011, 12:35 AM

Good Point...who is the charismatic leader of the Offense?

mooby · 09-27-2011, 01:00 AM

I don't think this offense has one. I like Moss, I like Cooley, I like Davis, I like Hightower, but none of them really scream, "I'm gonna put this team on my back when they need me to". And I'll keep saying this all year long but Grossman looks like a one year stopgap until we get a franchise qb next offseason. Until then we're just gonna have to make do. Grossman started to look rattled in the 2 minute drill at the end of the game and how can you expect your fellow offensive players to feed off that? I'm starting to agree that this team is lacking that one elite offensive playmaker that you know wants the ball when the chips are down and the game is on the line.

skinsfan69 · 09-27-2011, 01:27 AM

Well... no one. We lack playmakers on the outside. As much as I like Santana he can't do what Dez Bryant did at the end of the game. The offense will do well here and there but when he get up against solid defenses we're going to have trouble putting the ball in the end zone.

SmootSmack · 09-27-2011, 07:49 AM

Why can't Santana do that? He's shown he can time and time again

Mattyk · 09-27-2011, 07:53 AM

I don't think leadership is our problem. We need sharper execution in the red zone.

jbcjr14 · 09-27-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't think leadership is our problem. We need sharper execution in the red zone.

I agree Matty. We just did not execute in the red zone and credit the Cowpukes D as they pretty much took Fred Davis out of the game.

skinsfan69 · 09-27-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why can't Santana do that? He's shown he can time and time again

Has Santana ever had a double digit TD year? He can't physically dominate someone like Bryant can. I love the guy but he should be in the slot and maybe start getting Paul or Hankerson on the outside.

09-27-2011, 12:15 AM	#1
DynamiteRave Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 25 Posts: 7,159	Who Can Lead This Team? I'm speaking offensively. I think we have plenty of defensive vets and leaders. I touched on it briefly in the gameday thread, but it seems like we don't have anyone on the offense who can lead this team. Grossman just doesn't seem to have that IT factor that QB needs to have. Romo goes ape s*** on his players, which I think is a bit overkill, but he has that leader quality. As have other QB's I have seen. I look at Cam Newton and I see that leader quality in him, even as a rookie. But Grossman... Just doesn't seem to have that leader quality. I feel he's inconsistent and has the tendency to choke under pressure. And I don't think Beck has it either. I just feel at this point, we're trying to put a band aid on a gaping wound which is our QB position. So this begs the question, who's shoulders can this offense trust and lean on? __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I'm a chick, damnit.

09-27-2011, 12:17 AM	#2
skinsfaninok RG3 in D.C Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 25 Posts: 9,645	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? Well no one this season and honestly IDK about next year either because Rex will play good enough to make us a playoff contender IMO, yeah he's not great but he has his moments.. Lets just wash this game away and move on to STL __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

09-27-2011, 12:20 AM	#3
Chico23231 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 35 Posts: 4,942	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? The running game leads this offense. Hightowe/Helu/Torain? Every good Shanny team has a good running game which is the engine for his offense. But when you have an arrogant fcking son who fcking thinks Rex grossman needs the ball in his hands a majority of the time and effectively kills any running attack you have, you might as well forfeit the f*cking game before it starts. __________________ "I mean, I looked on the test and wasn't nothing on the test that came with football, so I pretty much blew the test off"

09-27-2011, 12:21 AM	#5
GreekSkin Swinging the gate. Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 943	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? I really hate seeing threads like this 3 games into the season. __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

09-27-2011, 12:35 AM	#8
vallin21 Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vienna Va Posts: 980	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? Tim Hightower- AWESOME block against that #43! Great catch on 3rd and 5 setting up his TD. Didn't run the ball well but when he was in, he made plays, as did Helu. IMO if Hightower plays well, we'll have a great chance to win.

09-27-2011, 12:21 AM	#4
SmootSmack RIP Chuck Brown Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,699	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? Jonathan Crompton __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-27-2011, 12:35 AM	#9
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 7,367	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? Good Point...who is the charismatic leader of the Offense? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

09-27-2011, 01:00 AM	#10
mooby Is the offseason over yet? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 23 Posts: 9,717	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? I don't think this offense has one. I like Moss, I like Cooley, I like Davis, I like Hightower, but none of them really scream, "I'm gonna put this team on my back when they need me to". And I'll keep saying this all year long but Grossman looks like a one year stopgap until we get a franchise qb next offseason. Until then we're just gonna have to make do. Grossman started to look rattled in the 2 minute drill at the end of the game and how can you expect your fellow offensive players to feed off that? I'm starting to agree that this team is lacking that one elite offensive playmaker that you know wants the ball when the chips are down and the game is on the line. __________________ You've been Crisped! You can text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10 to American Red Cross Disaster Relief!

09-27-2011, 01:27 AM	#11
skinsfan69 Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 7,180	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? Well... no one. We lack playmakers on the outside. As much as I like Santana he can't do what Dez Bryant did at the end of the game. The offense will do well here and there but when he get up against solid defenses we're going to have trouble putting the ball in the end zone.

09-27-2011, 07:49 AM	#12
SmootSmack RIP Chuck Brown Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,699	Why can't Santana do that? He's shown he can time and time again __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-27-2011, 07:53 AM	#13
Mattyk Funky Boss Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 64,633	Re: Who Can Lead This Team? I don't think leadership is our problem. We need sharper execution in the red zone. __________________ "Third is the word!" Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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