The Sky is NOT Falling!

That Guy · 09-27-2011, 10:10 PM

it was a bad showing and a winnable game. whatever, sh** happens, life goes on. I'm just sorry this was the one we rolled snake eyes on.

SirClintonPortis · 09-27-2011, 10:54 PM

Of course it's not falling. But what a disgusting loss. Haslett became "Mr. Dumber than random Madden player". Rex became Interceptus Rex. Kyle decided to turn into Fat Andy and pass pass pass.

CrazyCanuck · 09-27-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

seems every season there is a thread titled this way and guess wat ....... the sky falls.

Classic. As a wise poster once wrote, "it's funny because it's true".

CrazyCanuck · 09-27-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

seems every season there is a thread titled this way and guess wat ....... the sky falls.

You still deserve one of these though...

The Goat · 09-27-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Keeping Dallas out of the end zone is further validation on how much the D has improved. Once the offense catches up, the Skins will be a consistent playoff threat. Even if the Skins don't finish better than 8-8, for the first time in years, I feel like better days are coming soon.

No...just no.

The defense has absolutely nothing to brag about from the Dallas game. Dallas' o line is epically disorganized at this point and Romo looked like a shadow of himself. Remove either of these factors and Dallas would have utterly shredded our defense all game long.

This notion our defense is even above average comes from where exactly? The defense was atrocious last year. Its improvement is totally dependent on Kerrigan and Orakpo having simultaneously dominant games. Kerrigan looked more like a rookie Monday night and Orakpo was ailing. To be honest we got very lucky Dallas' offense was a fraction of itself or we'd have been badly embarrassed in prime time.

Mattyk · 09-27-2011, 11:44 PM

No TDs given up isn't something to be ashamed about.

Look at the numbers across the board, if you can't see a vastly improved D you're just blind.

The Goat · 09-27-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

No TDs given up isn't something to be ashamed about.

Look at the numbers across the board, if you can't see a vastly improved D you're just blind.

I think we've faced two relatively weak offenses (NY and AZ). NY has an oline in transition and an underwhelming WR corp. AZ got beat by the Seachickens lol...that team is just bad right now. In Dallas we faced an oline that could barely put a play together and a QB wincing with every breath.

...our defense is improved no doubt, but I'm holding that the improvement is dependent on Kerrigan/Orakpo. That's all.

Mattyk · 09-27-2011, 11:58 PM

The D is improved for a lot of reasons, not just Kerrigan and Orakpo.

NY has underwhelming WRs? Really?

Seattle always plays tough at home.

This D is much better than last year. There's just no disputing that.

SirClintonPortis · 09-28-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I think we've faced two relatively weak offenses (NY and AZ). NY has an oline in transition and an underwhelming WR corp. AZ got beat by the Seachickens lol...that team is just bad right now. In Dallas we faced an oline that could barely put a play together and a QB wincing with every breath.

...our defense is improved no doubt, but I'm holding that the improvement is dependent on Kerrigan/Orakpo. That's all.

BS. Manningham and Nicks combined for 20 TDs last season. That's damn good production no matter what.

Beanie Wells can scorch Ds and Larry Fitzergald is a beast. Last year's D would have been blown out by Wells and/or Fitz. We held them down this year.

The Dallas o-line picked up our blitzes and kept Romo fairly clean.

SirClintonPortis · 09-28-2011, 12:04 AM

Also, in the 3-4, interior line play is absolutely critical. You don't have a NT? Then Rak and Kerrigan don't produce. No ands, ifs, or buts.

dgack · 09-28-2011, 12:06 AM

We're dead in the middle in yds allowed/gm.

We're 5th best in points allowed and 1st downs/gm allowed.

#1 in opponent 3rd down percentage.

In terms of who we've played, Dallas ranks 5th in yardage, AZ 18th and The Giants 20th. In terms of points scored, Giants are 11th and Dallas 13th, Arizona 22nd (but this is misleading as they've averaged 19.7 ppg and there are FIVE teams tied with 20ppg at 17th)

The teams we have faced are certainly not the class of the NFL, but I would say they are average to above average opponents.

Ruhskins · 09-28-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Also, in the 3-4, interior line play is absolutely critical. You don't have a NT? Then Rak and Kerrigan don't produce. No ands, ifs, or buts.

Actually, I thought our interior line played well. We just need to do a better job at disguising blitzes. Oh and tackling continues to be an issue.

SirClintonPortis · 09-28-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Actually, I thought our interior line played well. We just need to do a better job at disguising blitzes. Oh and tackling continues to be an issue.

We are in agreement.
My response was a refutation to the guy's premise that Rak and Kerrigan are the only ones responsible for our improve defense. Our interior boys this year are better than the ones we had last year, and the performance of our OLBs [will] reflect that.

Ruhskins · 09-28-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

We are in agreement.
My response was a refutation to the guy's premise that Rak and Kerrigan are the only ones responsible for our improve defense. Our interior boys this year are better than the ones we had last year, and the performance of our OLBs [will] reflect that.

Ah gotcha. Despite my criticism of the defense, yes they are much much better than last year. I wish they would get to the level where they could overcome our offensive deficiencies and win the game for us (like the way the Steelers D won that game on Sunday night).

The Goat · 09-28-2011, 12:43 AM

NFL Stats: by Player Category

Neither Nicks nor Manningham were top 10 WRs last year and I'd be surprised if either will be after '11. They're roughly an average WR tandem, which I equate to underwhelming.

It's sooooooo frustrating to discuss all the opponents we face as top this and top that...as though every Turd Ferguson is going to Canton lol.

The verdict on the defense is still out. So far we've seen solid improvement when Kerrigan and Orakpo are dominating together. But whatever my point is the defensive effort against Dallas is nothing to brag about...jeez lol. The humor of putting on airs from facing a seriously injured QB and incompetent line is giving me a side ache lol

09-27-2011, 10:10 PM	#46
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! it was a bad showing and a winnable game. whatever, sh** happens, life goes on. I'm just sorry this was the one we rolled snake eyes on. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

09-27-2011, 10:54 PM	#47
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! Of course it's not falling. But what a disgusting loss. Haslett became "Mr. Dumber than random Madden player". Rex became Interceptus Rex. Kyle decided to turn into Fat Andy and pass pass pass. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

09-27-2011, 11:44 PM	#51
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,722	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! No TDs given up isn't something to be ashamed about. Look at the numbers across the board, if you can't see a vastly improved D you're just blind. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-27-2011, 11:58 PM	#53
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,722	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! The D is improved for a lot of reasons, not just Kerrigan and Orakpo. NY has underwhelming WRs? Really? Seattle always plays tough at home. This D is much better than last year. There's just no disputing that. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-28-2011, 12:04 AM	#55
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! Also, in the 3-4, interior line play is absolutely critical. You don't have a NT? Then Rak and Kerrigan don't produce. No ands, ifs, or buts. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan. Last edited by SirClintonPortis; 09-28-2011 at 12:08 AM.

09-28-2011, 12:06 AM	#56
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! We're dead in the middle in yds allowed/gm. We're 5th best in points allowed and 1st downs/gm allowed. #1 in opponent 3rd down percentage. In terms of who we've played, Dallas ranks 5th in yardage, AZ 18th and The Giants 20th. In terms of points scored, Giants are 11th and Dallas 13th, Arizona 22nd (but this is misleading as they've averaged 19.7 ppg and there are FIVE teams tied with 20ppg at 17th) The teams we have faced are certainly not the class of the NFL, but I would say they are average to above average opponents. __________________ "To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

09-28-2011, 12:43 AM	#60
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: The Sky is NOT Falling! NFL Stats: by Player Category Neither Nicks nor Manningham were top 10 WRs last year and I'd be surprised if either will be after '11. They're roughly an average WR tandem, which I equate to underwhelming. It's sooooooo frustrating to discuss all the opponents we face as top this and top that...as though every Turd Ferguson is going to Canton lol. The verdict on the defense is still out. So far we've seen solid improvement when Kerrigan and Orakpo are dominating together. But whatever my point is the defensive effort against Dallas is nothing to brag about...jeez lol. The humor of putting on airs from facing a seriously injured QB and incompetent line is giving me a side ache lol __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

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