WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2011, 10:31 PM

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notice how he only talks big right before he's going to have a crappy game or right afterwards?

if you can't back it up, stop talking. I'm tired of seeing him get beat big.

The worst is that "vinny the village idiot" signed him to a ridiculous contract and he's no better than Carlos Rogers or Fred Smoot, hell maybe even Ade Imoh. Do you guys wonder why 2 other teams cut him?

SmootSmack · 09-27-2011, 10:33 PM

2 other teams cut him? News to me

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

2 other teams cut him? News to me

Correction. Got rid of his ineptitude.

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The worst is that "vinny the village idiot" signed him to a ridiculous contract and he's no better than Carlos Rogers or Fred Smoot, hell maybe even Ade Imoh. Do you guys wonder why 2 other teams cut him?

I don't think Hall would be so much of a problem if he wasn't such an angry prick about everything. He talks his talent up like he's Revis then comes out and plays like Leigh Torrance. (Oh, oh, remember him?)

Okay, Hall isn't that bad. I actually think he's a decent CB, but really he's turning into the Kanye West of the team.

He's developing (or maybe always had?) the "It's not me, its them" mentality.

SirClintonPortis · 09-27-2011, 10:44 PM

I think we've got a new "indicator". When Hall talks big to the media, we lose. There is money to be made from his mouth.

That Guy · 09-27-2011, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I don't think Hall would be so much of a problem if he wasn't such an angry prick about everything. He talks his talent up like he's Revis then comes out and plays like Leigh Torrance. (Oh, oh, remember him?)

Okay, Hall isn't that bad. I actually think he's a decent CB, but really he's turning into the Kanye West of the team.

He's developing (or maybe always had?) the "It's not me, its them" mentality.

leigh torrence had a sack and 2 pass defenses this week... which is 3 more plays then hall, who shot zeros in both.

DynamiteRave · 09-27-2011, 11:31 PM

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leigh torrence had a sack and 2 pass defenses this week... which is 3 more plays then hall, who shot zeros in both.

Damn. Didn't even know that guy was still around. Go him.

Ruhskins · 09-27-2011, 11:38 PM

I find it ironic how much D. Hall and his hatters/apologists are alike...they both talk too much and are a usually a big distraction from bigger issues/bigger pictures.

Fans in here become crybabies when it comes to this guy and it is getting kinda old. You'd think there'd be threads complaining about Grossman, the playcalling, the RBs, etc., etc.

Lotus · 09-28-2011, 12:03 AM

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leigh torrence had a sack and 2 pass defenses this week... which is 3 more plays then hall, who shot zeros in both.

Now that's just not true. Dez Bryant did little apart from that last play. Dhall played like he did against the Cards - solid all game except for one terrible play which had tragic consequences.

dgack · 09-28-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I find it ironic how much D. Hall and his hatters/apologists are alike...they both talk too much and are a usually a big distraction from bigger issues/bigger pictures.

Fans in here become crybabies when it comes to this guy and it is getting kinda old. You'd think there'd be threads complaining about Grossman, the playcalling, the RBs, etc., etc.

That's a pretty lame analogy. Hall sometimes says dumb things and doesn't back them up. What that has to do with fans pointing out that he'd be better off just shutting up and playing? That's less clear.

And there's plenty of Grossman and Kyle bashing going on, not sure what gives you the impression there wasn't?

If it's not obvious, the main reason Hall is picked on is the same reason guys like Doughty get treated with kid gloves; nobody likes a guy who runs his mouth and then plays badly. Everyone likes a guy who keeps quiet and tries hard, even if he comes up short.

Ruhskins · 09-28-2011, 12:17 AM

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That's a pretty lame analogy. Hall sometimes says dumb things and doesn't back them up. What that has to do with fans pointing out that he'd be better off just shutting up and playing? That's less clear.

And there's plenty of Grossman and Kyle bashing going on, not sure what gives you the impression there wasn't?

If it's not obvious, the main reason Hall is picked on is the same reason guys like Doughty get treated with kid gloves; nobody likes a guy who runs his mouth and then plays badly. Everyone likes a guy who keeps quiet and tries hard, even if he comes up short.

There's a difference between fans criticizing a guy like Hall (like most of us), and then there are the people that go out of their way to bash or defend Hall. I think at least one thread has been locked in the past b/c of this somewhat tiring debate about Hall.

I am by no way defending Hall, he makes tons of mistakes, including letting Bryant get a big possession. And he runs his mouth too much and needs to STFU. But personally I don't think he is worth multiple threads. People just loooove to complain I guess.

dgack · 09-28-2011, 12:25 AM

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People just loooove to complain I guess.

Yeah, that's an understatement. But complaining takes energy and only people who care have the energy to post (whether it's positive or negative).

I'll take complainers who bleed Burgundy and Gold over bandwagoneers like the 90% of Dallas fans who have never set foot in Texas any day of the week.

Ruhskins · 09-28-2011, 12:26 AM

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Yeah, that's an understatement. But complaining takes energy and only people who care have the energy to post (whether it's positive or negative).

I'll take complainers who bleed Burgundy and Gold over bandwagoneers like the 90% of Dallas fans who have never set foot in Texas any day of the week.

Good point.

SmootSmack · 09-28-2011, 12:56 AM

I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game.

If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that

Bucket · 09-28-2011, 01:00 AM

Sorry, but the play call was terrible.. Romo couldn't even throw the ball 20 yards last night and we knew what targets he was going after.. 5 man rush, and drop back in coverage while padding over Whitten/Bryant would of been the better Defensive Call..

Defense played well all night, but the offensive play calling was horrid. I feel like Rex Grossman was held back from playing his type of football Monday night.. If they would of unloaded like they did the first two games and stopped all the timid play calling then things might of went another way..

I dont remember seeing 1 bootleg monday night

09-27-2011, 10:33 PM	#62
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09-27-2011, 10:44 PM	#65
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys I think we've got a new "indicator". When Hall talks big to the media, we lose. There is money to be made from his mouth. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

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Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,614	Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys I find it ironic how much D. Hall and his hatters/apologists are alike...they both talk too much and are a usually a big distraction from bigger issues/bigger pictures. Fans in here become crybabies when it comes to this guy and it is getting kinda old. You'd think there'd be threads complaining about Grossman, the playcalling, the RBs, etc., etc. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

09-28-2011, 12:56 AM	#74
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,220	Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game. If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-28-2011, 01:00 AM	#75
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys Sorry, but the play call was terrible.. Romo couldn't even throw the ball 20 yards last night and we knew what targets he was going after.. 5 man rush, and drop back in coverage while padding over Whitten/Bryant would of been the better Defensive Call.. Defense played well all night, but the offensive play calling was horrid. I feel like Rex Grossman was held back from playing his type of football Monday night.. If they would of unloaded like they did the first two games and stopped all the timid play calling then things might of went another way.. I dont remember seeing 1 bootleg monday night __________________ HTTR Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

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