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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 I didn't say Sharpe should be in before anyone else, I know there's a log jam at WR, I'm just saying he shouldn't be eliminated from consideration based solely on the fact he "only" played 7 years. He averaged 85 catches, 1162 yards, and over 9 TDs per season. I'd guess those numbers stack up very favorably against anyone else's in the Hall. |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Quote:
Edit: I just saw this video on the HOF website and thought it fit with our comparison of short careers: Multimedia
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 7 sounds fine to me but I guess you would have to look at the body of work and the quality of the teams he(the player) played against and with.
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| | #34 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 No Redskins on the list: Enshrinement » Class of 2012 semifinalists Class of 2012 semifinalists 11/22/2011 Two first-year eligible candidates, coach Bill Parcells and guard Will Shields, are among the 26 semifinalists being considered for the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2012. Although technically a first-year eligible candidate, Parcells has been a finalist twice before (2001, 2002) following his announced retirement as head coach of the New York Jets in 1999. At the time the Hall of Fame By-laws did not require a coach to be retired the now mandatory five seasons. Parcells returned to coach the Dallas Cowboys in 2003 and the five-year waiting period was in effect when he retired from coaching in 2006. The semifinalist list is usually limited to 25, this year there are 26 resulting from a tie for the final position. The Pro Football Hall of Fame By-laws for the Selection Committee provides that the list shall consist of “twenty five nominees plus all ties.” The Hall of Fame’s Selection Committee chose the 26 semifinalists from the previously announced list of 105 preliminary nominees. In addition to the two first-year eligible nominees, four other previously eligible candidates, Steve Atwater, Clay Matthews, Karl Mecklenburg and longtime contributor Ron Wolf have made it to the semifinalist’s list for the first time. Each of the remaining 20 nominees on the Selection Committee’s list has been a semifinalist at least once prior to this year. The complete list of 26 modern-era semifinalists is as follows: Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos Dermontti Dawson, C – 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1979-2000 San Francisco 49ers Chris Doleman, DE/LB – 1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys Cortez Kennedy, DT – 1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks Curtis Martin, RB – 1995-97 New England Patriots, 1998-2005 New York Jets Clay Matthews, LB – 1978-1993 Cleveland Browns, 1994-96 Atlanta Falcons Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins Willie Roaf, T – 1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs Donnie Shell, S – 1974-1987 Pittsburgh Steelers Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League Steve Tasker, ST/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams Ron Wolf, Contributor – 1963-1974, 1978-1990 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, 1975-77 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1990 New York Jets, 1991 -2001 Green Bay Packers George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
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| | #35 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 I'm scratching my head on why was Bobby Beathard left of these list. Beathard was as successful as George Young or even more than him and Ron Wolf. Total BS!!
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Quote:
.......not really.
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| | #37 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 7 SB with 4 teams, 4 SB rings. KC, Miami and 2 with Redskins. I bet you didn't know that.
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| | #38 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 What was he did(responsabilities) in KC and Miami ?
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| | #39 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 He earned his first AFL championship ring as a member of the 1966 Chiefs organization. Beathard served as a scout for the Atlanta Falcons from 1968 through 1971. In 1972, Beathard was named director of player personnel for the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins won the following two Super Bowls. In 1978, the Washington Redskins named Beathard general manager. During his tenure in Washington, Beathard and head coach Joe Gibbs led the Redskins to three Super Bowls and two championships. In addition, the 1991 championship team for the Redskins was primarily composed of players that Beathard had brought to the Redskins. Prominent Beathard draft picks for the Redskins include Art Monk, Joe Jacoby, Mark May, Russ Grimm, Dexter Manley, Charlie Brown, Darrell Green, Charles Mann, and Gary Clark. Beathard retired as general manager of the San Diego Chargers in 2000 after 10 seasons with the club. In just his third season in San Diego, the organization won its first AFC Western Division championship in more than a decade and, after five years, appeared in its first Super Bowl.
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| | #40 |
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| I wonder if being associated with Shula and Gibbs hurts Beathard. I mean when people say "Can you believe Gibbs won a Super Bowl with Williams at QB and Timmy Smith at RB?!" they're basically saying he won despite the talent. Which is not a good indictment of Beathard as GM. I'm not saying I agree with this assessment, just wondering if some may think that
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| | #41 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Not saying he was'nt good, you're saying he's better ...and I say not really.Don Shula brought more of those players in then Beathard in Miami but at no time am I trying to shoot down his achivements.
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| | #42 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 His grandson, C.J. Beathard, is committed to the University of Mississippi as a quarterback in the class of 2012.
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Quote:
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| | #44 |
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 First off, I didn't say he was better than Young, but I did say he was better Wolf. Isn't the the job of the director of player personnel to get the talent for the team? He did that for the Dolphins, why do you think the Redskins hired him? Because of what he did in Miami. George Young was a great scout, Coach, GM. Beathard also turned around the perennial loser Chargers and took them to the SB after his 3rd year there. I say Beathard was just as responsible for the 2 SB by the Dolphins as Shula.
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| The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York
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| Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Chris Doleman deserves to go. He terrorized quarterbacks from the defensive end position for the Vikings like no other. Donnie Shell should have been in the HOF a long time ago, and he deserves enshrinement. |
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