Hall of Fame Class of 2012

SFREDSKIN · 11-25-2011, 08:57 PM

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SmootSmack · 11-25-2011, 11:17 PM

I wouldn't sell Ron Wolf short. He's had quite the career

SFREDSKIN · 11-25-2011, 11:30 PM

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I wouldn't sell Ron Wolf short. He's had quite the career

I agree, but I still say Beathard was better. He built those 2 SB Miami teams of the 70's including the undefeated season, Redskins 3 SB's (2 wins one loss) and Chargers 1 SB. Wolf had success with Raiders (2 SB), TB and GB (1 SB). My point is why isn't Beathard considered along with Young and Wolf? Both great GM's just like Beathard, I think Bobby has the better record from all the 3.

Leader In Sports · 11-26-2011, 08:16 AM

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First off, I didn't say he was better than Young, but I did say he was better Wolf. Isn't the the job of the director of player personnel to get the talent for the team? He did that for the Dolphins, why do you think the Redskins hired him? Because of what he did in Miami. George Young was a great scout, Coach, GM. Beathard also turned around the perennial loser Chargers and took them to the SB after his 3rd year there. I say Beathard was just as responsible for the 2 SB by the Dolphins as Shula.

I actually don't have an opinion on Beathard, Young and Wolf but I would like to point out that if ANY of them go in, it will only be 1 this year.

You have to remember that this is the HALL OF FAME. Just like the earlier discussion in this thread about Sterling Sharpe. The question is not if someone was good at their position, the question is were they better than the other guys nominated? Your opening point indicates Young would be the front office guy who should go in.

Giantone · 11-26-2011, 10:36 AM

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First off, I didn't say he was better than Young.

Post #36, My Point is they hired Shula before they hired Bethard...they wanted him to build this team........and he did.

htownskinfan · 11-26-2011, 06:16 PM

Really wish Butz would make it in

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Leader In Sports · 11-26-2011, 07:01 PM

From the Redskins I would like to see (in no particular order) Larry Brown, Pat Fischer, Dave Butz, Joe Jacoby and Charles Mann.

htownskinfan · 11-26-2011, 09:29 PM

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From the Redskins I would like to see (in no particular order) Larry Brown, Pat Fischer, Dave Butz, Joe Jacoby and Charles Mann.

Yeah Id like to see that too of course,plus Manley also.Larry Brown doesnt deserve it though,hes got absolutely no shot of making it.Fischer probably deserves it more than Butz

NC_Skins · 11-26-2011, 09:48 PM

Here is to hoping Chris Carter doesn't make the HoF yet again.

Leader In Sports · 11-27-2011, 07:44 AM

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Yeah Id like to see that too of course,plus Manley also.Larry Brown doesnt deserve it though,hes got absolutely no shot of making it.Fischer probably deserves it more than Butz

I thought about Manley but left him off the list figuring his off the field issues would get him. For someone like LT, he was able to get past them. For someone on the bubble, I see it as a deal breaker with voters.

skinsfan69 · 11-27-2011, 08:25 AM

Wouldn't that be something if Jack Kent Cooke got in??? That would probably really chap Snyder's ass. But I just don't see that happening. One guy that I really think deserves it is Charles Haley. The guy was truly a difference maker.

skinsfan69 · 11-27-2011, 08:49 AM

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Where Are They Now? Bobby Beathard - BGObsession.com

Bobby "badass" Beathard catching a wave at 74.

Photo | SignOnSanDiego.com

BB was a GREAT front office and personel man. Like he said...'he was in it at the right time.' You could keep guys and groom them. It's way harder now then it was back then. If there's one team that really does it like we use to it's is Pittsburgh. If they lose a guy it seems they have one ready to step right in. They rarely bring in guys from the outside. But like every GM, BB had some serious stinkers in there. But think about some of the guys he got...Bostic, D. Green, Mann, Jacoby, Joe Washington, Monk, Grimm, Charley Brown, Dexter, May, D. Grant, Gary Clark...I'm sure I'm missing some. But damn those are just some damn good and great players.

Ruhskins · 11-27-2011, 12:04 PM

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Wouldn't that be something if Jack Kent Cooke got in??? That would probably really chap Snyder's ass. But I just don't see that happening. One guy that I really think deserves it is Charles Haley. The guy was truly a difference maker.

Why would it? I'm sure it would bring more publicity to the team, just like when Monk and Green got it.

REDSKINS4ever · 11-27-2011, 02:06 PM

Bobby Bethard was going to come back in 2004, but something had got in the way. It would have been nice to see a Bethard-Gibbs reunion. Too bad it didn't happen.

SFREDSKIN · 11-27-2011, 02:15 PM

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Bobby Bethard was going to come back in 2004, but something had got in the way. It would have been nice to see a Bethard-Gibbs reunion. Too bad it didn't happen.

Bobby wanted his own scouting staff, Snyder wanted to use the existing staff at the time.

11-25-2011, 08:57 PM	#46
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,504	Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Where Are They Now? Bobby Beathard - BGObsession.com Bobby "badass" Beathard catching a wave at 74. Photo \| SignOnSanDiego.com __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth Last edited by SFREDSKIN; 11-25-2011 at 09:18 PM.

11-25-2011, 11:17 PM	#47
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	I wouldn't sell Ron Wolf short. He's had quite the career __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-26-2011, 06:16 PM	#51
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 51 Posts: 3,012	Really wish Butz would make it in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Ho Lee Chit

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Leader In Sports Special Teams Join Date: May 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 378	Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 From the Redskins I would like to see (in no particular order) Larry Brown, Pat Fischer, Dave Butz, Joe Jacoby and Charles Mann. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/LeaderInSports

11-26-2011, 09:48 PM	#54
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,288	Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Here is to hoping Chris Carter doesn't make the HoF yet again. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

11-27-2011, 08:25 AM	#56
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Wouldn't that be something if Jack Kent Cooke got in??? That would probably really chap Snyder's ass. But I just don't see that happening. One guy that I really think deserves it is Charles Haley. The guy was truly a difference maker.

11-27-2011, 02:06 PM	#59
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: Hall of Fame Class of 2012 Bobby Bethard was going to come back in 2004, but something had got in the way. It would have been nice to see a Bethard-Gibbs reunion. Too bad it didn't happen.

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