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Old 10-02-2011, 04:47 PM   #31
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I don't think Rex is great, but I don't think you gain much if anything by bringing in Beck at this point. Rex is a middle of the pack guy. Always was, probably always will be. His stats at this point of the season are comparable to guys like Big Ben, M. Sanchez, Flacco, Kolb...
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:47 PM   #32
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some of u guys act like Rex is a great QB.. He's not so why would we not bench him?
KS needs to realize that Grossman and Beck are not great QBs and that our offense needs a running game.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:49 PM   #33
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I don't think Rex is great, but I don't think you gain much if anything by bringing in Beck at this point. Rex is a middle of the pack guy. Always was, probably always will be. His stats at this point of the season are comparable to guys like Big Ben, M. Sanchez, Flacco, Kolb...
You get the bootleg and a guy who can get the ball downfield. Rex's play lately hasn't justified taking out the offenses other staple play. Beck wouldn't have to do much to match if not exceed the play we've seen lately out of Rex.

Plus I am scared to death of Trent Cole getting pressure on Rex next week. Cole is playing at the same level as Dwight Freney during the mid to late 2000's.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:49 PM   #34
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Grossman is a placeholder.
Beck could be a placeholder.
I'll go with the one that has a few wins this year.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:52 PM   #35
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We're 3-1 and that's great -- that being said, Rex has played pretty badly and the defense has had to bail him out. Kyle's playcalling has been pretty suspect as well so both should be put under the microscope this bye week.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:53 PM   #36
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Actually it seems more like a fear of if Rex gets benched we can never go back to him. This isn't baseball people and like I've said since training camp, and many times today, the advantage of having two journey men QB's is you can bench one of them and not cause a huge S storm in the media. Sure we would love to have an actual franchise QB but the hand we got now gives us flexibility. I say we use it.

Dumb idea, and who cares about the media.

I think it was Bill Parcells who said if you think you have two quarterbacks, you don't even have one...something like that. You don't switch QBs unless there is a reason. 3-1 going into they bye leading your division with a QB that has decent but not outstanding stats is a move that will lose the team and probably more games than not in the future.

Rex is our guy unless he gets hurt.
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Grossman is a placeholder.
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I'll go with the one that has a few wins this year.
For once I agree with Alvin Walton.

I don't understand why people are suprised at Grossman's style of play so far. In the words of Jamie Dukes, he is what he is. You're gonna get some good, you're gonna get some bad. Right now Grossman has gotten us to 3-1. As long as we win games I don't see why he needs to be benched.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:55 PM   #38
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This thread is redic. We r 3-1. One pick was on him. I hate fans like you.
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Rex played bad last week and bad today, he is LUCKY we have a run game and a good D or we would b 1-3
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:00 PM   #40
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For once I agree with Alvin Walton.

I don't understand why people are suprised at Grossman's style of play so far. In the words of Jamie Dukes, he is what he is. You're gonna get some good, you're gonna get some bad. Right now Grossman has gotten us to 3-1. As long as we win games I don't see why he needs to be benched.
I think its a lot of curiosity. Seeing what Beck can do is what fuels me really. It's like alright, we see Rex, wonder what this other guy can do? I mean granted you shouldn't take a team with momentum and just totally change the dynamic, which is why I'm torn and think that a switch should only be a consideration during the bye week and something sitting in the coaches head's down the road in case inconsistency keeps up and not a knee jerk move.

Also starting Beck against a divisional foe next week would be a bad move anyway.

I think a lot of this is frustration (for me anyway), that I think this offense has the ability to really really be good and there's some missing piece and I can't figure out wtf.
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This thread is redic. We r 3-1. One pick was on him. I hate fans like you.
you're redic
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:01 PM   #42
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If we were a super bowl team or A playoff main stay I'd say stay with Grossman. But we're not, I'd say it's time to make the switch. There is no more up side to Beck. We won't get any more yards, we won't score any more points, but he won't do his Brett Favre with down syndrome impression like Grossman often does. Just manage the game for christ sake. Run and Defense, no turn overs, and less 3 and outs and the skin win every time.
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So if we're 3-1, then what's the justification for bringing in Beck?
The justification is his bone headed plays, and the team winning in spite of him doing everything possible to ensure that we lose the game. The guy is also getting very lucky, as in having numerous picks dropped in both the Arizona game and this one.

The guy just doesnt have it. Not what it takes to be a week in, week out winner in this league. Just imagine what this team would be capable of if the squad had a sound decision maker at quarterback...... I'm not even saying an all-pro!!! Just someone who doesnt fumble, throw directly to the other team, make boneheaded decisions.....etc...
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3-1 is really good but the only time we've looked completely in control was the second half against the Giants and kind of in the first half against the Rams. It's not like we've dominated this season.
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Dumb idea, and who cares about the media.

I think it was Bill Parcells who said if you think you have two quarterbacks, you don't even have one...something like that. You don't switch QBs unless there is a reason. 3-1 going into they bye leading your division with a QB that has decent but not outstanding stats is a move that will lose the team and probably more games than not in the future.

Rex is our guy unless he gets hurt.
That's a cliche and has little to do with our actual situation. Right now we're committing turnovers and we're not moving the ball through the air. I never understood why QB's are virtually immune from benching. Redskins were 2-0 with Doughty starting, and 1-1 with Landry starting. Should we bench Landry? I'm tired of hearing about QB records, all to often it's used as a justification for poor play.

Just look at the Titans without Vince Young. QB records only mean so much.
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