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Old 10-17-2011, 03:42 PM   #481
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For as much shit as I've given Grossman lately, the receivers/te's/backs didn't help him out yesterday. Inconsistency was the order of the day as far as our pass catchers played. Still though, Grossman is not one of those qb's who can sling it into double or triple coverage, and that's what he did.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:46 PM   #482
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There is no way you can blame his INTs yesterday on the receivers. He threw the ball directly into the defenders' hands/chests...sometimes without a Redskins receiver even in the vicinity.

Now, we can make a case that Stallworth and Gaffney let Beck down...they dropped easy ones from him for big gains/TDs.

His only ugly throw that I remember was the rollout/pass back across the field to Torain. It hit the ground and was nowhere near an Eagle. You gotta expect some rust from not playing since 2007, but he looks GREAT to me.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:51 PM   #483
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I'd be curious to see that INT following Hall's interception again. Or hear what was said about it. But it looked like he expected Davis to curl in. Someone messed up there

To me still one of the worst throws was the short pass to Cooley
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:55 PM   #484
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I'd be curious to see that INT following Hall's interception again. Or hear what was said about it. But it looked like he expected Davis to curl in. Someone messed up there

To me still one of the worst throws was the short pass to Cooley
After the game yesterday , Davis said that he was supposed to cross the safeties face , and messed up ...... maybe he just said that to save his QB from more grief ?
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I'd be curious to see that INT following Hall's interception again. Or hear what was said about it. But it looked like he expected Davis to curl in. Someone messed up there

To me still one of the worst throws was the short pass to Cooley
I bet Chris agrees. Gone for 6 weeks after that one.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:57 PM   #486
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After the game yesterday , Davis said that he was supposed to cross the safeties face , and messed up ...... maybe he just said that to save his QB from more grief ?
Well it matches up with what I heard someone else say (off the record), but I wasn't sure if anything more was said about it.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:58 PM   #487
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Even Rex's best play, the flea flicker completion...was thrown into triple coverage. Bad decision...luckily it was a rare perfect pass from him.

If he had played the 4th quarter, we would have witnessed a 5 or 6 INT game.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:04 PM   #488
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Everyone acts like drafting a QB next year makes us a legit team lmao u guys do realize besides Luck all the others are a crap shoot
So it doesn't stand out from any other class other than having a sure thing?
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:20 PM   #489
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I'd be curious to see that INT following Hall's interception again. Or hear what was said about it. But it looked like he expected Davis to curl in. Someone messed up there

To me still one of the worst throws was the short pass to Cooley
I read where Davis took the blame for 2 of rex's interceptions,that it was on him,not Rex.Still if you take those 2 away,that still leaves 2 too many
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:31 PM   #490
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There is no way you can blame his INTs yesterday on the receivers. He threw the ball directly into the defenders' hands/chests...sometimes without a Redskins receiver even in the vicinity.

Now, we can make a case that Stallworth and Gaffney let Beck down...they dropped easy ones from him for big gains/TDs.

His only ugly throw that I remember was the rollout/pass back across the field to Torain. It hit the ground and was nowhere near an Eagle. You gotta expect some rust from not playing since 2007, but he looks GREAT to me.
Rex's first INT could have been prevented if Fred Davis had made greater effort to catch the ball at its highest point. Davis kept that ball from being a touchdown.

I'm not absolving Rex. He obviously had several other really ghastly throws.
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I read where Davis took the blame for 2 of rex's interceptions,that it was on him,not Rex.Still if you take those 2 away,that still leaves 2 too many
It's weird to me that Beck came into the same game, with those same recievers, when that same defense KNEW we had to pass the ball, and didn't throw into coverage one single time.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:42 PM   #492
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Look. The guy threw 4 INTs. That makes 9 in the past FOUR games, and he should have at least 11 if not for some ridiculous Carlos Rogers-esque drops. Those that are arguing about who is responsible for what interception are missing the point, the bottom line. He is the field general, the signal caller, the top guy. He is the last person to touch the ball before it lands in a defenders hands, period. Why do we never hear about other teams quarterbacks and who is responsible for their interceptions? Probably because the rest of their play is up to snuff, at least to overlook a few missteps and chalk it up to a learning experience. If history is any indicator at ALL, this is not the case with rex grossman, period. This guy stays on the roster only because of the fact that we need bodies in case our other quarterback goes down in case of an injury. We have BARELY gotten by several talent challenged teams and eeked out our wins. This has to stop now.


The Washington Redskins have enough to contend with within their own conference, rather than having to fight out of every horrible situation that Rex Grossman puts them in every game. You can't go into a boxing match with handcuffs and a blindfold on, and that is what we are doing when we go into a game with Rex grossman behind center.

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Look. The guy threw 4 INTs. That makes 9 in the past FOUR games, and he should have at least 11 if not for some ridiculous Carlos Rogers-esque drops. Those that are arguing about who is responsible for what interception are missing the point, the bottom line. He is the field general, the signal caller, the top guy. He is the last person to touch the ball before it lands in a defenders hands, period. Why do we never hear about other teams quarterbacks and who is responsible for their interceptions? Probably because the rest of their play is up to snuff, at least to overlook a few missteps and chalk it up to a learning experience. If history is any indicator at ALL, this is not the case with rex grossman, period. This guy stays on the roster only because of the fact that we need bodies in case our other quarterback goes down in case of an injury. We have BARELY gotten by several talent challenged teams and eeked out our wins. This has to stop now.


The Washington Redskins have enough to contend with within their own conference, rather than having to fight out of every horrible situation that Rex Grossman puts them in every game. You can't go into a boxing match with handcuffs and a blindfold on, and that is what we are doing when we go into a game with Rex grossman behind center.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:51 PM   #494
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After listening to Shanahan's presser today, I get the feeling Rex is going to be our starting QB on Sunday.. Just my opinion.
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Old 10-17-2011, 05:03 PM   #495
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After listening to Shanahan's presser today, I get the feeling Rex is going to be our starting QB on Sunday.. Just my opinion.
Wouldn't shock me, but I didn't necessarily get that same impression
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