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Old 10-05-2011, 11:42 AM   #91
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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Interesting reader question on King's article. I don't want to create a brand new thread on it..



ON CALVIN JOHNSON. "Thanks for your column. It's not officially Monday for me until I've read it. Here's my question: Calvin Johnson was certainly unstoppable yesterday. I'm wondering why, on goal-line plays, coaches don't occasionally defend big receivers like Johnson with a big receiver from their own team? Doesn't somebody like Dez Bryant have a better chance of beating Johnson on a "jump ball" pass?'' -- Ryan Reed, Bowling Green, Ky.

Thank you for the kind words, Ryan. I hadn't thought of that strategy, but you could be right. In a Houston-Detroit game, for instance, I'd love to see Andre Johnson as the deep safety on a big play at the end of a game, to battle Calvin Johnson on a deep throw. I know coaches would shy away from it for a number of reasons, including fear of injury, but on the biggest play of the game, why not do it?
I wonder if with the rise of these tall dominant receivers (A. Johnson, Megatron, Dez Bryant), next offseason there will be a demand for tall CBs. Sometimes when these small CBs go up against a tall WR, it looks like a child trying to guard an adult.
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Old 10-05-2011, 12:04 PM   #92
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I wonder if with the rise of these tall dominant receivers (A. Johnson, Megatron, Dez Bryant), next offseason there will be a demand for tall CBs. Sometimes when these small CBs go up against a tall WR, it looks like a child trying to guard an adult.
Dez Bryant doesnt deserve for his name to be in the same sentence as A. Johnson and Megatron. Guy has done zero
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Dez Bryant doesnt deserve for his name to be in the same sentence as A. Johnson and Megatron. Guy has done zero

I agree Dez Bryant is the Paris Hilton of the NFL. Everyone knows his name but he has not done jack crap.
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Dez Bryant doesnt deserve for his name to be in the same sentence as A. Johnson and Megatron. Guy has done zero
Well you would have a point if we were talking about who is the best wide receiver this seasons or in the past couple of seasons, etc., etc. However, my point was to give examples of WRs that have the ability to go up and grab a pass at a point that it is difficult for a small CB to defend.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

Kerrigan = big motor, Rak = big ability. Both are beasts, but my gut is Kerrigan outplays his physical talent by being smart / being relentless. Some of his plays are on second efforts and recognizing throwing situations, etc. Both in ProBowl for years to come.


More important than this argument is -- the success draft/FA. I'm VERY pleased at all the hits on our new players, as well as getting more out of the existing players. A far cry from seeing Portis sip cocktails with Snyder. The big misses on McNabb and struggles with Haynesworth are long forgotten.

If Shanny keeps this up, we're definitely competing for the SB in 2 years. Currently we're 3-1, but can't see us competing with teams like Green Bay yet - but with a better offense anything is possible.

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Old 10-06-2011, 08:38 AM   #96
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yeah, I agree with that, but not the order. I think QB and CB are more important than MLB and OLine. MLB is a need, but not a big one, with Rocky showing that he's worth keeping and the ageless london fletcher still there. I think we can milk out one more year with London. The only MLB I'd take is Burfict. Where as next year you have Barkley, Cousins, Foles, Robert Griffin, and Landry Jones coming out as your QB's. CB is a need, and there are some great CB's in this class as well. Cliff Harris of oregon, Gilmore South Carolina, Hosely of VT, Claiborne for LSU, Dennard for Nebraska, Jenkins who was on Florida but is now with North Alabama, and Dre Kirkpatrick.
Did you purposely leave Luck off of that list since it does not look like there is any chance we get him?
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:20 PM   #97
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

Since we are talking about that side of the ball.....

did any of you hear the Sports Junkies talking about statistics either yesterday or the day before? The Redskins right now have a #3 ranked defense. Obviously it will change some when we start with our hardest part of our schedule, but they said teams that have a top 8 defense get to the pale-offs 90% of the time. Teams with a top 5 defense get to the pale-offs 100% of the time.

They also pointed out that the Skins have 5 difficult games to play yet and 4 games which should be somewhat easy or atleast they should win. I'm not saying they are SB bound for those who will choose to twist my words, I'm simply saying they have a good chance to make the play-offs and hopefully next year.... year 3 for the coaching staff, they can make the big run at the SB. If the team does better then expected this year then awesome.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

pale-offs?

Is that like a beer competition?
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pale-offs?

Is that like a beer competition?
Purposefull mispelling. I thought it was on this board maybe elsewhere, there was a thread "The pale offs are now". or something to that effect. Supposed to be funny.
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Ah.

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Ah.

It's an ES thing.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:48 PM   #102
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First off, when you start by saying the junkies said, your already wrong. Those guys are fun as hell to listen too, but they are so dumb when it comes to life. If they said what you just posted that they have the number 3 ranked D in the league, their wrong. It's 5th. We're third in scoring defense though if thats what they meant.
Yes they confused everyone with the whole subject but in the end we are a top 5 defense. Top 8 has a 90% chance of making the play offs. Having said that they also pointed out that the Skins are only 4 games in and a long road to go with some tough teams.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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pale-offs?

Is that like a beer competition?
No, its like when the Redskins kill off all the pale faces.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:10 AM   #104
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Actually Kerrigan is making Rak better as he draws more respect and blocking to slow him down. AND Rak will give supreme effort to keep up with Kerrigan. They are a ferocious duo and Rak was a monster today...
Tremendous Defensive unit this year...Cannot wait to see what happens next offseason with aquisitions...FA's and Jarvis Jenkins coming back
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

I'm coming to the conclusion that Kerrigan is the better player of the two. They both have unbelievable motors, but Kerrigan seems to use his physical strength more effectively, while Rak tries to rely on speed to get around the edge, but rarely seems to beat good tackles. I heard a stat that boggles my mind - Rak only has half a sack against NFC East competition in his career. I would be very curious to see the result if Haslett had Orakpo and Kerrigan switch sides.
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