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Old 01-08-2005, 12:12 PM   #16
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And we're trying to establish continuity? Doesn't sound like this guy has any history of loyalty.
This is guy is being hired mostly for the development of Patrick Ramsey and maybe to resurrect Mark Brunell's career (probably impossible.) He's probably more or less going to act as a consultant.
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Old 01-08-2005, 09:15 PM   #17
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a well paid consultant too, the WP says he'll be the top QB coach in the league at $500,000 per
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Old 01-08-2005, 10:00 PM   #18
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Wow - A guy run out of town for an anemic offense comes to Washington for 1/2 a mil...
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:54 AM   #19
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He does have a history of making big play QBs though, just because he couldn't do it with Brunell and Leftwich doesn't mean he can't get it done. He did get it done with Steve Beuerlein and Jeff George, and I would think Ramsey has more upside than those two.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:12 AM   #20
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Gibbs knows how to assemble a staff, Musgrave must have something positive to offer if he's being brought in.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:13 AM   #21
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I'm sure he does, but for 1/2 a mil... He must be doing SOMETHING besides QB coach!
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Old 01-10-2005, 12:38 AM   #22
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He does have a history of making big play QBs though, just because he couldn't do it with Brunell and Leftwich doesn't mean he can't get it done. He did get it done with Steve Beuerlein and Jeff George, and I would think Ramsey has more upside than those two.
I am not sure I agree aboutLeftwich. I think that he had a good year for a second year guy.
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Old 01-10-2005, 12:20 PM   #23
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Bill Musgrave was fired in Jax in large part because the Jaguars' offense was so anemic. The Jags have gone 50 consecutive games (more than 3 seasons!) without scoring 30 points in a game.

Granted, scoring 28 points in a game more than once or twice would have been really sweet here in Washington this year, but let's keep this in perspective. The Redskins are not hiring the reincarnation of Sid Gilman here as their innovative offensive-minded genius for the next decade...
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Old 01-21-2005, 09:40 AM   #24
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hi I'm new to the warpath but was interested in this discussion. I wonder about this move being something that will have a great positive impact which is needed. I don't know a lot about Musgrave but from a coaching standpoint I was not particularly impressed with any of the quarterbacks that participated in producing, and he is THE QUARTERBACK COACH. The article I read stated "Among the other quarterbacks that Musgrave has coached include Jeff George, Steve Beuerlein, current Atlanta Falcons backup Matt Schaub and current Jacksonville starter Byron Leftwich." Of course include Brunell but we have seen where that went.

Seems like a change here was a good concept but perhaps taking some time to see who else was available would have been a good idea. For example, I doubted the aquisition(and especially the contract) of Brunell when it happened, but felt even worse about it when Kurt Warner became available. Not that I wanted Ramsey replaced but if your are going to do it then Warner would have been a better selection than Brunell. I am worried that the Skins could have done better by not jumping at Musgrave right away.

Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.
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Old 01-21-2005, 09:43 AM   #25
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Shaub played very well in college, Brunell used to be a great QB, and Leftwhich is well on his way. I think musgrave can really help Ramsey with his footwork, which is what he needs. Plus, I think they're going to use him to help add a much needed wrinkle to the Redskins offense. He's going to tell Gibbs if he wants to use short routes stop running curls and hit your WRs in stride so they can get more YAC.
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I don't recall anybody on the board wanting Warner initially, but of course after a few good outings with the Giants all of a sudden people come out and question our decision to not go after him.

As for Musgrave, I think it's a solid upgrade. If anything he brings a different approach and mindset to the offense. Despite what people will say I think he was primarily brought in to work with Ramsey and the QB's, and not to be the cure for the offensive schemes.

I'm sure Gibbs will be interested in picking his brain on the west coast system but I don't think we'll see radical changes to the system itself, the changes should come in a more aggressive approach to the playcalling, more shots down the field, not being so concerned about turnovers that it handcuffs the offense, etc.
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:35 AM   #27
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I never wanted Warner, nor do I want him now. He may be the luckiest guy ever! Got put into St. Louis with Faulk, Bruce, and Holt!
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I'm anxious to see what Musgrave will bring myself. Anything to get some different minds together. I mean they don't have to agree, but they can take something from each other and help Ramsey out if anything.
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Old 01-21-2005, 03:13 PM   #29
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Yeah I also believe that Musgrave is there for the sole purpose of coaching Ramsey and the other QBs. While it might not be out of the question that Gibbs would pick his brain about the West Coast offense, I don't really believe we will see much if any influence on the field from Musgrave other than the work he does with the QBs.
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