What's your take on our coaching?

Lotus · 11-03-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

My guess is as crazy as it sounds, that he has had his eye on a college QB coming out in next years draft that he really wants, as is patiently waiting.

It doesn't sound crazy at all. In fact, it sounds like a lock.

sportscurmudgeon · 11-04-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

My guess is as crazy as it sounds, that he has had his eye on a college QB coming out in next years draft that he really wants, as is patiently waiting.

This is a self-fulfilling prophesy. At the end of the 2011 NFL season, it will be clear to everyone - - fans, analysts, writers, sportsradio dudes and the Skins' coaching staff - - that Rex Grossman and/or John Beck are not "Franchise QBs"

At that point, the Skins will either :

Draft the guy they will say is the QB of the future

Sign a free agent who is a starting caliber QB in the NFL and declare him the future QB

Sign a free agent AND draft a QB of the future.

And at that point the idea that Mike Shanahan had his eye on whomever the Skins draft or sign all along will be "proven" correct.

SmootSmack · 11-04-2011, 06:56 AM

He didn't get his QB because he hasn't been available. This past draft we would have taken Locker. I'm convinced of that. Have talked to too many people who should know who say that was the plan. But the Titans took him. And Shanahan decided his second choice (apparently Gabbert) wasn't worth as much as trading down and adding more pieces.

53Fan · 11-04-2011, 07:30 AM

^ That makes perfect sense to me and I have no problem with it. We gained draft choices instead of drafting a QB just for the sake of drafting one. It makes no sense to draft a QB who the coaches don't believe will be very good.

Sonny9TD · 11-04-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He didn't get his QB because he hasn't been available. This past draft we would have taken Locker. I'm convinced of that. Have talked to too many people who should know who say that was the plan. But the Titans took him. And Shanahan decided his second choice (apparently Gabbert) wasn't worth as much as trading down and adding more pieces.

I'd like to see us do some trading and offer a few draft picks to the Titans and try to get Locker. It would be easier to do than getting Luck. I think they could make that happen. I like Locker big time. He is a player and I wanted him bad for my beloved Hogs. I would like to see the Skins do some dealing to get him. He would be perfect for us.

SmootSmack · 11-04-2011, 08:26 AM

More likely to be able to get Bradford if the Rams are in position to get Luck than we are to get Locker from the Titans.

53Fan · 11-04-2011, 08:33 AM

IMO getting Bradford would take care of the QB position for years. Wouldn't that be nice.

Unfortunately I think the Colts or Dolphins get this pick. I heard some talk the other day that if Manning only wanted to play for 2 more years, the Colts could let Luck sit on the bench and learn from him. Sort of like Rodgers and Favre. BUT...if Manning wanted to play for 3-4 more years, it wouldn't make sense. It's definitely going to be interesting come draft time.

NC_Skins · 11-04-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

More likely to be able to get Bradford if the Rams are in position to get Luck than we are to get Locker from the Titans.

I know the point you are making here, but do you think the Rams would select Luck and trade Bradford? I personally don't see it.

skinsfan69 · 11-04-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He didn't get his QB because he hasn't been available. This past draft we would have taken Locker. I'm convinced of that. Have talked to too many people who should know who say that was the plan. But the Titans took him. And Shanahan decided his second choice (apparently Gabbert) wasn't worth as much as trading down and adding more pieces.

I'm starting to think that MS really isn't a very good personel guy. He's proven that with his track record.

skins89moss · 11-04-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

My take is that football isn't rocket science and the coaches aren't infallible.

You are right football isn't rocket science its football.

skins89moss · 11-04-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

With the state of our o-line right now, Banks would get killed running the wildcat. I don't fault anyone for not running the ball now, but we didn't run the ball when the o-line was healthy.

Stop saying Banks would be killed or he is to small to play on offense. Damn Banks has been playing football all his life and so far he has not been killed. He did play at Kansas St on offense and special teams. Im not suggesting Banks can play every down but he damn well can play 10 snaps a game on offense. Remember the defense cannot touch wr anymore down field so why not take a few shots with him.

SmootSmack · 11-04-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I know the point you are making here, but do you think the Rams would select Luck and trade Bradford? I personally don't see it.

I don't know. But if they have the first overall pick, I can't imagine them not taking Luck and I can't imagine them keeping both. But then Arizona that already has Kolb, and Jacksonville with Gabbert are in the hunt for that top spot as well so it could get really interesting

I'm 100% behind getting a QB. Having been say for months now we need not 1 but 2 new QBs. That said though, I don't think that Shanahan's decision not to take a QB just to take one is an indication that he's proven not to be a good personnel guy. I think he's ok, kind of middle of the road I suppose. You spend as long as he has doing what he does there are going to be hits and misses

Hog1 · 11-04-2011, 09:42 AM

Good Read on Kyle and the Buff game in the News section of the WP if you have not seen it. Nobody gets thrown under the bus but........

Redskins' Kyle Shanahan fine with all his critics | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

NC_Skins · 11-04-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know. But if they have the first overall pick, I can't imagine them not taking Luck and I can't imagine them keeping both. But then Arizona that already has Kolb, and Jacksonville with Gabbert are in the hunt for that top spot as well so it could get really interesting

I'm 100% behind getting a QB. Having been say for months now we need not 1 but 2 new QBs. That said though, I don't think that Shanahan's decision not to take a QB just to take one is an indication that he's proven not to be a good personnel guy. I think he's ok, kind of middle of the road I suppose. You spend as long as he has doing what he does there are going to be hits and misses

I wouldn't put it past Arizona or Jacksonville to select Luck even with what they've invested into the QB. Also, not sure why the Rams would even select Luck. Why not just put the spot up for the highest bidder? Bradford has at least proven he can play in the NFL, but lacks the talent around him. They've made him the face of their franchise so it would seem like a step back to select Luck and trade him.

Lotus · 11-04-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I wouldn't put it past Arizona or Jacksonville to select Luck even with what they've invested into the QB. Also, not sure why the Rams would even select Luck. Why not just put the spot up for the highest bidder? Bradford has at least proven he can play in the NFL, but lacks the talent around him. They've made him the face of their franchise so it would seem like a step back to select Luck and trade him.

Given the new rookie wage scale, Luck will be cheaper to keep. Plus he might turn out to be better than even Bradford.

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11-04-2011, 06:56 AM	#288
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,098	He didn't get his QB because he hasn't been available. This past draft we would have taken Locker. I'm convinced of that. Have talked to too many people who should know who say that was the plan. But the Titans took him. And Shanahan decided his second choice (apparently Gabbert) wasn't worth as much as trading down and adding more pieces. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-04-2011, 07:30 AM	#289
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: What's your take on our coaching? ^ That makes perfect sense to me and I have no problem with it. We gained draft choices instead of drafting a QB just for the sake of drafting one. It makes no sense to draft a QB who the coaches don't believe will be very good. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change" Last edited by 53Fan; 11-04-2011 at 07:32 AM.

11-04-2011, 08:26 AM	#291
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,098	Re: What's your take on our coaching? More likely to be able to get Bradford if the Rams are in position to get Luck than we are to get Locker from the Titans. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-04-2011, 08:33 AM	#292
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: What's your take on our coaching? IMO getting Bradford would take care of the QB position for years. Wouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately I think the Colts or Dolphins get this pick. I heard some talk the other day that if Manning only wanted to play for 2 more years, the Colts could let Luck sit on the bench and learn from him. Sort of like Rodgers and Favre. BUT...if Manning wanted to play for 3-4 more years, it wouldn't make sense. It's definitely going to be interesting come draft time. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change" Last edited by 53Fan; 11-04-2011 at 08:37 AM.

11-04-2011, 09:42 AM	#298
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,373	Re: What's your take on our coaching? Good Read on Kyle and the Buff game in the News section of the WP if you have not seen it. Nobody gets thrown under the bus but........ Redskins' Kyle Shanahan fine with all his critics \| John Keim \| NFL \| Washington Examiner __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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