Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-19-2011, 01:28 AM   #136
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Jacoby ford is not better than Moss or Gaffney, cmon now dude show some respect to these guys that have done it for years, ford is a KR PR for goodness sakes
Ford is already miles ahead of Devin Hester the WR because catching the ball comes naturally to him. Not many WRs can go over the top and snatch the ball away from a CB like Ford did in the KC game last year. Moss has never been a strength guy and Gaffney? How about being nonexistent for the Patriots as their #3 before finally producing because Josh McDaniels loves to pass a lot.


He has remarkable concentration and hand-eye coordination and has actual hands.
__________________
Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness".

Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten.

The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 10-19-2011, 01:32 AM   #137
Franchise Player
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 7,686
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Who's the Raiders' fastest player? - SFGate
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 09:52 AM   #138
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,207
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Yes I watch Oakland a lot and I do like ford guys but I'm not talking speed I'm talking production at WR and he's still unproven
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 12:56 PM   #139
Living Legend
 
Monkeydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 35
Posts: 16,275
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

With Campbell coming back potentially in 6 weeks, I did not think they'd invest so much in a QB...just someone to bridge that gap so Boller isn't on the field. JC was playing VERY well for them...now it looks like he'll be gone since he's a FA and they've gotta stick with Palmer after overpaying for him so badly.

They better hope he's someone close to where he was before his injury. He hasn't been the same since.

However, after watching Ochocinco in NE this year...maybe it wasn't Palmer's fault completely. He should have a better offense around him in Oakland, especially with McFadden behind him. The WRs are talented but there is no clear #1. Heyward-Bey has been outstanding lately (with Campbell), Ford is always dangerous, Louis Murphy is reliable if nothing else...but no real star in the group.

Going to be interesting to watch. This is either going to propel Oakland to the next level or cripple them for 3 years minimum.
__________________
Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

Last edited by Monkeydad; 10-19-2011 at 12:58 PM.
Monkeydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 01:25 PM   #140
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Yes I watch Oakland a lot and I do like ford guys but I'm not talking speed I'm talking production at WR and he's still unproven
The real scouts hit on guys before their production takes off. Jacoby Ford will become a 1000+ yard receiver before his career is over.
__________________
Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness".

Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten.

The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 01:30 PM   #141
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,458
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Palmer to start this Sunday.
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 01:37 PM   #142
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,207
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

wow Palmer already huh?
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 01:38 PM   #143
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,207
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis View Post
The real scouts hit on guys before their production takes off. Jacoby Ford will become a 1000+ yard receiver before his career is over.
Well Brandon Lloyd was a star last year so does that make him better than anything we have? JS bro lets talk how great Ford is in 4 years

BTW 9 rec in 6 games isn't any good
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker


Last edited by skinsfaninok; 10-19-2011 at 01:40 PM.
skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 01:53 PM   #144
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Well Brandon Lloyd was a star last year so does that make him better than anything we have? JS bro lets talk how great Ford is in 4 years

BTW 9 rec in 6 games isn't any good
Ah, faulty data analysis at its finest.

Yes, Lloyd finally get his head out of his ass and started tapping into his talents. The tapped Lloyd was indeed better than whatever we have right now. Then comes in passing game killer John Fox and Lloyd fell off the face of the planet. It is not his fault.


For was inactive for 2 games due to injury. Only started one game b/c of injury. Had 3 receptions in every game except in NE. Last time I check, injury affects production, not skill.
__________________
Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness".

Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten.

The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 02:01 PM   #145
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,207
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Injuries are apart of it my man, moss never misses games for us now that's production.. Ford is an avg at best WR
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #146
Mann Up HOF!
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 10,873
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

What if Cinci and Oakland play in the divisional playoffs round in the next two years?

If Oakland wins, Oakland will go to the AFC title game, giving Cinci an extra #1 rather than #2 pick for Palmer. In losing, Cinci wins.

If Cinci wins the game, they will go to the AFC title game, thus making that extra pick a #2 rather than a #1. In winning, Cinci will lose on draft day.

So interesting.

About the trade:
Quote:
On Tuesday, the Raiders traded either a pair of No. 1s (on the condition they make the AFC title game in either of the next two seasons) or a 1 and a 2 for Carson Palmer(notes)
Jackson not hesitant to roll dice on Palmer - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
__________________
Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.
Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #147
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Injuries are apart of it my man, moss never misses games for us now that's production.. Ford is an avg at best WR
Oh, so now Jamaal Charles is one of the worst backs in the league because he'll be posting up a giant goose-egg for the rest of the season? Or Lichtensteiger is terrible because he won't be playing for the rest of the season? Or how about Max Pacioretty's injury when getting run into the stanchion?
An unknown =/= bad.
As if the player has control of the situation in which he gets injured.
__________________
Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness".

Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten.

The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 02:20 PM   #148
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,207
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

No Jamal Charles has produced big time ford hasn't not the same thing bro
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2011, 02:38 PM   #149
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
No Jamal Charles has produced big time ford hasn't not the same thing bro
Let's start from the top.
Argument
Jacoby Ford has 9 catches out of all games this season(6)
That means he averages 1.5 catches a game
Therefore he is average.

Problem here is that averages don't count games the player doesn't participate in. Ford averages 2.25 catches per in each game was eligible to play.

So, even though Ford has been deemed ineligible for 2 games this season, they should count against him.

So, why don't we apply this to everyone else and not just Ford? I don't care if it's Peyton Manning or JaMarcus Russell. Stats like yards per game are meant to be objective measures. So, should every "per game" stat like catches per game or yards per game count only if the player is active or should it be that every game his team players, even if he is inactive? You can't have it one way for every "unknown" and then favor every superstar with a different stat.
__________________
Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness".

Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten.

The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

Last edited by SirClintonPortis; 10-19-2011 at 02:40 PM.
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2011, 10:21 PM   #150
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 27
Posts: 16,207
Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

Palmer 3 Ints today
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28021 seconds with 10 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25