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Old 10-18-2011, 03:35 PM   #31
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Re: QB needy teams

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So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

(not my idea but it got my attention when I first heard it)
I know you are not a troll, but that is a troll bait idea if I have ever heard one. No way you trade away a trusted strength in your team, for a guy who did not flat out win the competition at his spot.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:48 PM   #32
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Alex Smith will be a free agent but he's likely returning to SF and in all honesty he doesn't have the best arm. Jason Campbell surprisingly looks like he'll be available...but it won't be here. Josh Johnson is a possibility. But let's see...are there any other QBs out there...anyone we could...chase

No, but seriously I think you go Beck and a rookie for 2012
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Alex Smith will be a free agent but he's likely returning to SF and in all honesty he doesn't have the best arm. Jason Campbell surprisingly looks like he'll be available...but it won't be here. Josh Johnson is a possibility. But let's see...are there any other QBs out there...anyone we could...chase

No, but seriously I think you go Beck and a rookie for 2012
Yup, and hopefully a rookie that is pro ready and can play sooner rather than later.

Did we have any interest in Dalton in the draft? I forget.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:57 PM   #34
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Yup, and hopefully a rookie that is pro ready and can play sooner rather than later.

Did we have any interest in Dalton in the draft? I forget.
I think Kyle liked him some, Mike not as much.
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Alex Smith will be a free agent but he's likely returning to SF and in all honesty he doesn't have the best arm. Jason Campbell surprisingly looks like he'll be available...but it won't be here. Josh Johnson is a possibility. But let's see...are there any other QBs out there...anyone we could...chase

No, but seriously I think you go Beck and a rookie for 2012
Yup. Seems to me it's Flynn, Josh Johnson, or a rookie. I vote for a golden rookie.

Unless Rockytop Crompton leads us to the playoffs this year...
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:11 AM   #36
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well i imagine orton would be available too, and garrard... the list is so exciting! we can throw boller on there too... he's only failed in 2 or 3 cities so far.

seriously though, we haven't had a good solid qb in the 8-9 years i've been watching the team, so it's about time.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:34 AM   #37
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My guess is that we bring in a Qb in F/A , as well as draft one ( rd 1 or 2 ) . I just hope we draft well in the first 4 rds ( 5 picks ) and have a F/A period like this years . I heard on the Radio last night that DE J. Jenkins was walking around Redskins Park and looked like he was ahead of schedule .
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So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

(not my idea but it got my attention when I first heard it)
You dont mean brian orakpo, do you?
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So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

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Hell f'n no. Trade a proven pro-bowler for a question mark? No thanks.
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You dont mean brian orakpo, do you?
No, he's talking about Susie Orakpo, Brian's wife.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:25 PM   #41
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No way Indy or the Chiefs pass on Luck. The only way we, or anyone else has a shot is if a team with a "established" young qb, ie Bradford, gets the first pick. At that point bidding would be outlandish, and probably not worth it. Now, maybe he pulls an Elway, and refuses to eventually sign, and so the team then has to deal him, but I can't imagine Luck not wanting to step into the Colts driver seat, even if it means sitting behind Manning for 1 - 2 years.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:34 PM   #42
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I'm hoping the Rams gets the first pick, and we can make a push for Bradford
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the way its looking now, the colts will get 1st pick, take luck, and get three 1st rounders for manning.
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I'm hoping the Rams gets the first pick, and we can make a push for Bradford
That would be pretty crazy. If there was any hint that Bradford could be available, you'd have to think we'd push hard for him.
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Now that we're 6 weeks into the season and we have an ok idea of who the bad teams are and who the good teams are, lets take a look at who might be interested in upgrading at quarterback next year. I'll start by listing all the teams with losing or .500 records at this point.

Winless
Colts - we can already assume if they end up with the first shot at Luck, they'll take him. And even if he isn't available, they might pick a qb anyways. So yes, they'll prob. look at qbs in the draft this year.
Rams - No, def. wouldn't take a qb.
Dolphins - yes, definitely would be interested in a qb. With a new head coach probably on his way in he'd def. want a qb he could mold in his image.


1 win teams -
Jags - no, don't think they'd take a qb. Too many holes on that team, even if they did think there was a qb out there better than Gabbert, which is doubtful.
Vikings - again, same thing here. Too many holes, already have Ponder, probably going to stick with him especially if he flashes potential for the rest of the season.
Panthers - nope. Need defensive help more than anything.
Broncos - hard call here. I don't think Fox likes Tebow but if Tebow plays well for the rest of the season it'd be hard to see them going qb here, especially since the rest of the team needs help.
Cards - another tough call. Kolb obviously isn't working out, and I have no idea if Whisenhunt is on a short leash or not. I'll say possibly.


2 win teams -
Chiefs - Haley looks like a lame duck coach, but they might keep him if he turns it around. Cassel hasn't played nearly as good this year as he did last year, so if a new coach comes in he might want a new qb. Possibly for this team too.
Browns - idk, tough call here. I don't know too much about how Shurmur and Holmgren feel about McCoy. Possibly?
Seahawks - I think we can all assume if they were in position to take an elite qb, they'd take him. Especially with Carroll's connections to a guy like Matt Barkley.
Cowboys - idk here either. Doubtful, but you never know. Another up and down year for Romo, or another crushing playoff loss, and they just might go younger. Again, doubtful imo, but it's hard to get a read here.
Eagles - do I really need to include them? I think they'll get things on the right track this season, because of their season saving win last week (thanks again, Skins), and they'd probably be wiser to invest in offensive line or linebackers. Vick has played up and down ball this year but he's the least of their problems.


.500 teams
Falcons - no. Just no.
Texans - maybe? Schaub certainly isn't their biggest problem. Doubtful but you never know, especially if Kubiak is let go if they go on a downward spiral from here on out.
Jets - The Sanchize certainly hasn't played up to his draft status this year, but doubtful here too.
Bears - nah, don't see it happening. QB isn't a need.


So I'll sum it up now.


Teams that need qbs:
Colts, Dolphins


Possibly:
Broncos, Cardinals, Chiefs, Browns, Seahawks


Possibly, but doubtful:
Cowboys, Texans


Leaning toward a heavy no:
Rams, Jaguars, Vikings, Panthers, Eagles, Falcons, Jets, Bears.


This is a very preliminary list, obviously there's 11 weeks left to go, anything can happen, some qb's will play poorly, some will fall out of favor, etc. But some of these qb holes will be filled through free agency, some through trades, and some through the draft. I'm definitely in favor of giving up a few picks if it means we get our guy for the next decade. But I think we should definitely go the draft route. I think I'll bump this thread once the season is over and we have a much more clear idea of draft order and who might want a qb.

Good analysis...

I might disagree with you about the Jags and Blaine Gabbert. He has looked VERY RAW on the field and if he gets a dozen starts this year and still looks the way he does now, the Jags - - with a new coach next year almost assuredly - - might want to play in the QB lottery again.

Kolb is not really the problem in Arizona. The OL there is a sieve and Kolb's game is not scrambling - - whech is what he has to do in order to stay alive.

I think that the Chiefs, Browns and Seahawks are more "probably" than "possibly".
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