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Old 10-20-2011, 07:40 AM   #136
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Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:14 AM   #137
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It is a move that had to happen given the numbers. My issue is this :

1) we are 3-2
2) Heading on the road for a winable game, which in my opinion would have been the best place for Rex to play (any where but home)
3) I know he has 8 or 9 picks, but how many are actually all on him?? Two last week were on Fred Davis, I can count a few more that either went off receivers hands, Santana fell on one, Armstrong was held on another. Unfortunately these things go against a QB's numbers and it doesn't look good. If the whole picture is disected, its more bad luck than horrible throws.
4) We lost 2 of our starting lineman
5) what happened to the running game?? Which hurt the ability to throw effectively when the D isn't planning on getting run on.


I hope Beck comes out and does a hell of job. And if this was reverse I'd be saying the same thing about Beck so dont think I am standing up for Rex. I am standing up for the QB position, because it takes way too much credit when they win, and way too much heat when we lose.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:31 AM   #138
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And who could we have gotten reasonably. There is a very good QB class coming out next year. Neither QB was destined to be our future just a place holder as we rebuild.

Gotcha, but I'm still not amused.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:44 AM   #139
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Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.
Yeah, a couple amoebas, at most. But hopefully no bacteria.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:49 AM   #140
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Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.

I wish those dumpy chicks would just leave their organisms at home. I don't want them at my house.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:31 AM   #141
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Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.
Organism?

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Old 10-20-2011, 09:49 AM   #142
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Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.
Insect spray will take care of that problem.
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Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.


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It is a move that had to happen given the numbers. My issue is this :

1) we are 3-2
2) Heading on the road for a winable game, which in my opinion would have been the best place for Rex to play (any where but home)
3) I know he has 8 or 9 picks, but how many are actually all on him?? Two last week were on Fred Davis, I can count a few more that either went off receivers hands, Santana fell on one, Armstrong was held on another. Unfortunately these things go against a QB's numbers and it doesn't look good. If the whole picture is disected, its more bad luck than horrible throws.
4) We lost 2 of our starting lineman
5) what happened to the running game?? Which hurt the ability to throw effectively when the D isn't planning on getting run on.


I hope Beck comes out and does a hell of job. And if this was reverse I'd be saying the same thing about Beck so dont think I am standing up for Rex. I am standing up for the QB position, because it takes way too much credit when they win, and way too much heat when we lose.

Bad Luck? He must be the unluckiest QB in the NFL since 2005
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Bad Luck? He must be the unluckiest QB in the NFL since 2005

LOL - I wasn't referring to previous years as I have not or did not watch his games as a Bear. It has been said he is careless with the ball, which he has shown here as well. I am not debating that at all. What I am pointing out is that of the 9 pics he has thrown, several have not been on him. As stated previously, 2 last week were on Fred Davis, who said that himselft. And a couple from previous games.

QB's 99% of the time get blamed for INT's, what I am saying is that they should not be help accountable for 99% of those INT's. There is so much that goes on that the fans dont see in terms of receivers routes, whether they give up on them, or take them short, or stop the routes. A lot of the throws are anticipation throws and if a receiver deviates slightly from the route then its an incompletion or in some case picks.

Rex made mistakes last week and in previous weeks, no doubt about it. I hope Beck comes in and the offense as a whole gets a spark and runs more smooth and can put up some points.
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From what little I have seen of JB, he has a good arm and can deliver on a rope when req'd. Something that troubled Rex....a little to floaty into tight places. He can make all the throws.
He has "get away" and "buy time" speed and (and roll away from L Tackle position) the occasional rushing yardage factor. He looks calm in the pocket and steps up under fire.
IF he can avoid the......"Crazy Gene" we have seen from time to time....perhaps he can do some good stuff.
AND...if not, I'm headed to the Carolina's to find out first hand HOW to run the 2 QB thing from the Ol' Ball Coach..........
I'd disagree with slightly, Rex is good in short to intermediate passes. Heck sometimes I wonder why he's throwing the ball so hard. It's his deep ball that is the issue. He can muster about 1 good deep ball a game... nothing more. He tends to either under throw the ball (usually) or over throw the ball.

Beck can throw the ball deep but is not accurate on the deep passes. Basically I'm saying yeah he'll get the ball down to where it needs to be but our WR's need to be able to locate, track, and go after the ball for the catch which they are not good at for some reason. I think possibly only Moss is capable of doing this. If the ball is not on the money they won't catch it.

From what I've seen though Beck being able to buy time is not going to help when the WR's can't catch or drop balls that land in their hands which is 90% of the issue's this team is having. Instead fans are pointing at Grossman saying he sucks.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:44 AM   #148
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I wouldn't go that far. If I'm not mistaken Beck came in with Philly protecting a 14 point lead. Not exactly the kind of lead, especially on the road, where you just shrug your shoulders and write it off to win. Not to mention that lead was created by 4 turnovers by a guy who was no longer in the game.

I'm not full-on Beckwagon, but I don't think in any way whatsoever his successes had anything to do with Philly taking their foot off the gas.
Your right. I think Haslett was able to get the defense straightened out by that point. and it was only a 14 point lead with 12 min. left in the game. I'm baffled as to why the Skins only had two possessions in 12 min. but chalk it up to not playing a hurry up offense. At that point the team needed to start the no huddle to keep the Eagles off balance and didn't. Most of the throws were down the middle because the Eagles gave them that to eat up clock. Beck needed to find sideline passes to stop the clock with out having to use time outs. He didn't.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:47 AM   #149
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I've heard that some of the players were publicly backing Grossman. I can think of Fred Davis and Santana Moss as specifics. Do you think some of the players might sand-bag Beck a little bit at first or do you think that kind of stuff doesnt happen in the NFL anymore...
What happens if the players jumped on the Beck bandwagon and MS came out Wed. and said Grossman was starting this week? All the players who mentioned it were asked by the media, in other words they were goaded into an answer so they gave a politically correct answer. That way if Beck got the call and starts and is bad and needs to be replaced by Grossman there will be no locker room issues.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:54 AM   #150
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The funny thing to me is that Grossman had no difficulty with pushing the blame onto his receivers for some INT's. A QB in the NFL doesn't do that..........

I also didn't see anyone really backing Grossman other than Moss. I saw where Brown, Orakpo and another player was discussing the TO's. Obviously they didn't come out and throw Grossman under the bus as he did his receivers. However, they definitely aren't happy with the TO's.
A QB does that when the media wants to hang him out to dry, the coaching staff benches him, and the 2nd stringer makes a few comments like "we can't be throwing interceptions every game, we need to protect the ball more." That was a dig at Grossman by Beck. So Grossman came out and the media questioned him about his interceptions.... all he said is he thinks he has done fine and that the interceptions we have seen in the 1st four games he could prove were not his fault through video.

and this is what my whole arguement is ..... I don't think all the INT's are Rex's fault either and for those chanting for Beck to start each game I think you will be let down when the very same WR's fail to do their job and he throws INT's also. Fans are acting like Beck is the savior and will solve this riddle by being able to buy more time but if the WR's cant' catch a cold then the results will be the same.
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