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Old 10-31-2011, 08:20 PM   #196
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Soooo many people blamed Campbell. How quickly ye forget.
I was one of them. Even though we had a bad line, the guy just didn't get it done, even when they did block,.

That said, Beck has done fine up until Sunday's game, but you can't expect a QB to endure that type of punishment all day.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:20 PM   #197
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I find it funny, when Jasoni Campbell was behind center, it was always the OL and WR that sucked. Now that Beck is behind the center (with bad OL and mediocre WRs).....it's the QB.


Did any of you watch that game the other day? No run block. No pass block. Nothing. The thing that Beck did wrong was hold onto the ball too long. That said, guy never had time to do much of anything, and even Troy commented about how the WRs weren't getting open. I'm not saying Beck didn't play shitty because he without a doubt did, but he's played decent until Buffalo. I think the coaching staff need to devise something to counter the OL being decimated. (screen passes, 3 step drops, etc)
played good until buffalo? so a little over 1 week?
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:22 PM   #198
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played good until buffalo? so a little over 1 week?
Can you name me one QB in the league that would have fared better in yesterdays game? The only QB I can think of might be Vick with his running ability.
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Can you name me one QB in the league that would have fared better in yesterdays game? The only QB I can think of might be Vick with his running ability.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:46 PM   #201
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As well as Cam is playing, I don't even think he survives that beat down in Buffalo. Nobody is even remotely as fast as Vick and able to make tacklers whiff like he can.
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If you are under the impression I think Beck played good yesterday, you are barking up the wrong tree. He played horrible.
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I was one of them. Even though we had a bad line, the guy just didn't get it done, even when they did block,.

That said, Beck has done fine up until Sunday's game, but you can't expect a QB to endure that type of punishment all day.
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Can you name me one QB in the league that would have fared better in yesterdays game? The only QB I can think of might be Vick with his running ability.
I didn't think he was all that great against Carolina.

A lot of QB's would have done better against Buffalo. Improvement could come from a QB who gets the ball out quickly and who doesn't use his mobility to run into defenders. Beck has poor pocket presence.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:45 PM   #204
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Paging Dirtbag. We need some game film on Beck from this past weekends game. Would be nice.
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I was one of them. Even though we had a bad line, the guy just didn't get it done, even when they did block,.

That said, Beck has done fine up until Sunday's game, but you can't expect a QB to endure that type of punishment all day.
I think I need a clarification. Could you please discribe when actually Beck was doing fine? Minus Preseason. He's had 2 games. Both games very similar to each other.

1st game- 1 almost INT. 1 actual INT. 1 fumble.

2nd game- 2 INT's. 1 fumble.

Both games similar to the first 4 games of the season under Grossman. I'd prefer Grossman only throwing 2 INT's a game vs. Beck giving up 2 INT's and 1 or more fumbles a game. But thats just me.

Maybe you were refering to the time span between the 1st and 2nd game? or perhaps you were refering to the first 4 games when Beck was on the sideline. Clearly things were going well during that time span.
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It's wont matter who is our QB against SF, have u seen their D? Ouch look for another 17-14 game
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I was one of them. Even though we had a bad line, the guy just didn't get it done, even when they did block,.

That said, Beck has done fine up until Sunday's game, but you can't expect a QB to endure that type of punishment all day.
Beck got hit so much even Patrick Ramsey felt bad for him.
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I think at this point I'd take one of the CFL QB's over our two who were sitting on the sidelines prior to us hiring them.
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:03 AM   #209
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How can you win with journeyman quarterbacks in the first place? Back in training camp after the lockout, I had a negative feeling about the Redskins quarterback situation. When Grossman played in the final 3 games of 2010, he played okay, but not well enough to even be considered a starter going into 2011. And I know how crazy Mike Shanahan was about Beck, but how can you even have a QB compete for a starting job that hadn't played in a regular season game in 4 years?

Very poor evaluations on the head coach who claims to know quarterbacks!!!!!
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:52 AM   #210
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Went back and (painfully) watched the game again. Some general notes:

1. Beck could have avoided some sacks. When he rolled out of the pocket, he should have thrown the ball away on a few occasions. He tool the sack instead. This should get better with playing experience. Only practicing for a few years has given him a false sense of security about his scrambling abilities.

2. The running game could have worked. Torain was starting to hit 4 and 5 yard runs when they abandoned the run altogether. I know we needed to catch up, but we could have gone to a no huddle approach and stick with a balanced attack.

3. Kyle needs to scale back the offense. Injuries are obviously hurting us. To many new pieces, not enough cohesion. Guys running routes wrong, guys blocking wrong, backs missing blocks... these all led to tentative QB play. Looks like Kyle is evaluating players, not trying to win the game. Having Moss, a better security blanket for a QB, in that game would have made a difference.

4. Beck's long ball really sucks. Looks like he is just chucking it up just to say he did. Sometimes it went into double coverage. It was just so far overthrown nobody cared.

5. Defense got run over. It didn't help that they were on the field so much. However, they did limit a 30 pt/game team to 23 pts. Not sure how much to place the blame on them.
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