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Old 01-13-2005, 04:23 PM   #16
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If I were a Jets fan it would probably more than irritate because he was quitting (possibly) on my team. However, like I said, we don't know the whole story. There's probably plenty of players that are playing hurt, how many of them are in a contract year.

I have to go back to a college player debating about whether or not to come out. I do understand, also, that it is a little different being the NFL because he is getting paid to play and not just breaking his word.
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Old 01-13-2005, 04:36 PM   #17
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Let me say this about Abraham. I don't approve of what he is doing, but I'm not offended by it. I don't know of any team that will want to sign this guy if he is sitting out because he wants his money. However, we don't know all of the facts and I don't think it is fair to crucify him when we really don't have any idea. As for being cleared to play, Moss was earlier in the season, did he look like he should be playing?

I don't really care about the Abraham situation because I'm tired of hearing about it. I have had a lot of time to look at it and I have to think that you need to take a look at what would happen if the shoe was on your foot. It's easy to criticize as long as you never have to risk ending your career that's just about to become very profitable. Like I said before, think about a college athlete. I think Adrian Peterson should have been able to leave Oklahoma if he wanted because what if he gets hurt? McGahee is a different story because was in perfect health till he got his knee destoryed.

I'm not saying that sitting out to cash in is okay, just that I could understand it. I think if he is able to play, he damn well better be suiting up. Maybe he's had indications from the team that they don't want him back. Maybe he doesn't want to give it all for a team that won't resign him. Before you all shout that down, remember, this whole thread is based on speculation. He may not be able to go.
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Old 01-13-2005, 07:49 PM   #18
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i read where parcells is looking at going after abraham for the cowboys next season. maybe he will have better luck than he had with wiley whom they signed this past offseason. abraham can be terrific, but he has been injured a lot in his career. also, based upon his actions recently i do not think he is the kind of player who would lay it all on the line for the team every game.
he is not a gibbs type player in that regard.
he will cost a mint to sign and will be extremely high risk for whoever signs him because if he is injured and cannot play or the team wants to cut it's losses, it will experience a major cap hit.

let parcells have him..
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Old 01-14-2005, 02:23 AM   #19
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Dont think Abraham will be on our radar this year because i think he will be looking for big money.

The question I do have though, and it is the same thought I have about Reid holding players out in regular season to avoid injury, is that every player is one play away from a serious season/career ending injury. Sure you pick up knocks and knicks though constant punishment but big injuries can occur out of the blue like Penningtons arm , Vicks leg and Jansen. If you start worring about being injured you start getting a little gun shy and start playing slightly differently.
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:37 AM   #20
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here is my view...if Abraham is not 100%, do you really want him in a playoff game? if he gets seriously injuried, not only do you not have him for that game, but it extends out further. If you think he doesn't want to be out there playing, he's getting a bum wrap. He's the MVP of that team...he runs the defense, and is a clubhouse leader. he's thinking of not only his future, but the future of his team.
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here is my view...if Abraham is not 100%, do you really want him in a playoff game? if he gets seriously injuried, not only do you not have him for that game, but it extends out further. If you think he doesn't want to be out there playing, he's getting a bum wrap. He's the MVP of that team...he runs the defense, and is a clubhouse leader. he's thinking of not only his future, but the future of his team.
It depends.

Is he 90%? In that case yes, he should be out there. Do you think Moss was 100% last week? The dude could barely walk and he was still out there. There are plenty of guys in the playoffs that are playing hurt and probably wouldn't be playing if it was the regular season.

If Abraham is legitimately injured and the doctors say he shouldn't be playing I don't have a problem with that. But if he's well enough to play but he's protecting himself against blowing an opportunity for a big payday, that I have a problem with. That's putting himself first over the team.

The Jets are saying all the right things right now as well they should, but once the season is over I won't be surprised to see the Jets franchise him and look to deal him away.
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