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Old 11-07-2011, 10:22 AM   #46
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It was shown on replay that wr's were open downfield. It's very obvious that Beck simply isn't comfortable pushing the ball downfiled. To me it just looks like he can't drive the ball into tight spots. Whatever it is I've seen enough. But not giving Kyle a pass. He has to shoulder some of the blame too.
Agreed...there's plenty of blame to go around. But many Redskins fans want to fire Kyle and think that our offense would suddenly improve a bunch if Mike were calling the plays. I don't believe that. And anyone calling for coaching firings 24 games into a rebuild is the equivilent of a 39 year old Dan Snyder...
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Well I wouldn't say the 49ers dominated from the first snap. Neither team got off to a solid start really.

I would not say dominate either but they were definitely in control the entire game. Never did I feel like the Skins were going to win that game or threaten them.

IT was basically awesome sack by Kerriagen! Then hours of 3 and outs and punts, wow so exciting!
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Davis seems to lack focus at times, no doubt.
Davis really needs to step it up. I hope it this week it was due to his injury, but he really doesn't seem to know how to use his size and height advantage.
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Agreed...there's plenty of blame to go around. But many Redskins fans want to fire Kyle and think that our offense would suddenly improve a bunch if Mike were calling the plays. I don't believe that. And anyone calling for coaching firings 24 games into a rebuild is the equivilent of a 39 year old Dan Snyder...
Yesterday I thought Kyle had a good game calling plays. I'd like to see a few more running plays mixed in but for the most part he did well mixing things up.
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This game and the comments afterwards by Shanahan confirm we are in full rebuild mode. There is truly no reason to go back to Grossman at this point, he is who he is. While Beck has the potential to be historically bad, there's not a significant downside to letting him play out the final 10 games. The only benefit to Grossman is we may see what Hankerson, Paul and Helu can do with a middling QB.
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This game and the comments afterwards by Shanahan confirm we are in full rebuild mode. There is truly no reason to go back to Grossman at this point, he is who he is. While Beck has the potential to be historically bad, there's not a significant downside to letting him play out the final 10 games. The only benefit to Grossman is we may see what Hankerson, Paul and Helu can do with a middling QB.
But isn't that worth it? These guys are supposed to be our future but with Beck continuing to play like complete doo-doo it's hard to see how they can learn to be effective, especially Hankerson and Paul.
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I felt with John Beck at the helm, from snap one, I had zero confidence in him pulling out a victory.
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This game and the comments afterwards by Shanahan confirm we are in full rebuild mode. There is truly no reason to go back to Grossman at this point, he is who he is. While Beck has the potential to be historically bad, there's not a significant downside to letting him play out the final 10 games. The only benefit to Grossman is we may see what Hankerson, Paul and Helu can do with a middling QB.
I would give Beck one more game, but whether he starts or not has nothing to do with rebuilding. Beck is not the QB of the future and if there is a benefit to WR development with Grossman, so be it. Although I must say that regardless of who is under center, it is going to be fugly with our toughest stretch of the schedule coming up after the Miami game.
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I felt with John Beck at the helm, from snap one, I had zero confidence in him pulling out a victory.
I think that this is one reason why we have lost 4 straight. The team seems to have lost its fight and energy. It seems reasonable to presume that a lack of faith in Beck by the players might have something to do with the loss of pizzazz.

I never thought that I would say it but I would like Wrecks to start. Then if/when we are eliminated, it's Crompton time!
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I think that this is one reason why we have lost 4 straight. The team seems to have lost its fight and energy. It seems reasonable to presume that a lack of faith in Beck by the players might have something to do with the loss of pizzazz.

I never thought that I would say it but I would like Wrecks to start. Then if/when we are eliminated, it's Crompton time!
I give Beck one more game, if no improvement, then time to move on to Crompton. In the remainder of the season, the young WRs and Crompton may begin to develop some timing.

We don't know what our QB situation will be next year, but it should most certainly not involve Rex & Beck.
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Guys, is there really anything there with Crompton? Or are we just really grasping?
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I have no idea why any of you want to see Beck ever again. He can't throw a ball over 10 yards with any type of accuracy or zip, his ball wobbles, he just doesn't resemble what an NFL Qb should be. Yeah Rex is a turnover machine, but at least he gives the wr's chances. 14 catches by a RB??? Roy Helu has his name next to the great Art Monk?? (shake head)
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We r grasping and Rex should start IMO but honestly it doesn't really matter as long as we beat Dallas I'm ok bcuz I know this team only has 5-6 wins
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The scary part about all of this is the Shanahan's had Beck rated the highest on their draft the year he came out!!!!!!! If that doesn't scary you about their ability to rate passer coupled with how they basically passed on a ton of QB talent in the last draft. I have been a big believer in them but they have royal fawked up the QB position which was suppose to be their specialty.

How about Carlos Rogers, ever have a bad job then got a good job but went back to visit your friends at the bad job just to say hi and you left smiling knowing you don't have to work in that shit hole anymore, that is great feeling. That was how Carlos felt yesterday.
As I said elsewhere Mike's talent evaluation is laughable. Same can be said for his ability to motivate, clock management, organization, game preparedness and scheme.

Los deserves to be where he's at and I really hope JC recovers from injury and gets another shot to start (somewhere).

Eff you gotta feel bad for Fletcher. I wish he could end his career w/ a great franchise, maybe even a contender. Nobody deserves another ring as much as he does.
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Guys, is there really anything there with Crompton? Or are we just really grasping?
It's the latter. If Crompton really had anything, he'd be on the active roster. I trust that the coaches evaluate the players in practice, and if Crompton was doing any better than Beck or Grossman he'dve been called up by now.
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